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Re: Argon tank questions?

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JohnDeereJimOhio

12-24-2012 12:12:50
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Can i buy this tank and use it?




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Stick welding

12-24-2012 23:25:09
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 Re: Argon tank questions? in reply to JohnDeereJimOhio, 12-24-2012 12:12:50  
Only if a welding supply will fill it. There is no name on the collar which is good but it may need to be hydro-tested cause it's out of date. That usually costs about $35. What's funny in the ad is it says full because it's heavy. Oxygen is a gas in the cylinder so you wouldn't notice a difference in weight. Also, it looks to be missing a cap so that will cost between $10 and $20. Before buying a cylinder check with local welding supplies if they will exchange it or fill it. Exchanging is better because you get a full one right away. If they'll only fill it, you might have to wait up to a week.

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504

12-24-2012 17:44:05
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 Re: Argon tank questions? in reply to JohnDeereJimOhio, 12-24-2012 12:12:50  
There is no name on the ring so you should be able to have it refilled with Oxygen. For Argon you need a new valve and a retest to switch the service to Argon,.



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Stan in Oly, WA

12-24-2012 14:37:52
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 Re: Argon tank questions? in reply to JohnDeereJimOhio, 12-24-2012 12:12:50  
You certainly can buy it and use it until it's empty. The issue is whether you can get it refilled. You need to check with whoever you would be taking it to for refilling to see if they're going to go for it. There are lots and lots of stolen rental tanks around, and companies who sell, lease, and refill tanks take a dim view of the situation. You're dead in the water if nobody will refill it for you.

Stan

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12-24-2012 23:14:13
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 Re: Argon tank questions? in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 12-24-2012 14:37:52  
Mostly independent welding supplies sell and fill customer owned cylinders in all sizes. The large welding supplies like Praxair, Airgas, etc, only sell smaller size cylinders up to about 80 cu. ft. They make their money on leasing cylinders. It is not uncommon for customers to acquire cylinders that should have been returned because they were originally leased. This happens when cylinders are purchased at an auction for example. Getting what you think is a bargain is often money thrown out the window because you can't exchange the cylinder without it being tied to a lease.

The high pressure cylinders are all the same (CO2 being the exception) cylinder except the valve is different depending on the type of gas. In order to switch a cylinder from one gas to another, the cylinder is purged before filling. Cylinders should be purged all the time but sometimes this step is missed. The most common "dirty" gas and most noticeable is argon. You notice it when TIG welding, especially on aluminum. There will black on the weld and even pinholes in the weld from non pure argon.

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