1891 Argintine Rifle pictures both sides

old

Well-known Member
Ok so here it what the rifle looks like from both sides. Maybe you guy will know better what it is this way
a92305.jpg

a92306.jpg
 
Military rifle redone with sporter stock. Argentine rifles are listed by size but going by the vintage my first guess would be a 7x57 (7mm mauser). that cartridge became very big around then and could be bought in many countries. Markings, signs, letters or numbers may indirectly identify it. whats it got?
 
Serial number is N7459. Other then that I know very little about it but then if you have read my other posts on this you would maybe understand a lot more
 
Yup, sporterized 91 Argie. I'd take a real close look at that bolt handle root/receiver area I was talking about. If the root isn't right down touching the receiver you'll have problems with the stud if it's there and even if it isn't, it can still give you issues.

If you've got it so it will work, it could just be a confluence of things coming together to create the need for a lightly longer FP. You seem to have solved the issue, so I'd proceed carefully and be alert for any indication of problems. Back when I had the gunshop I've had to remake more than one FP just a little longer to get reliable ignition.

Another thing I'd look at is I'd take the bolt back apart and soak the stripped bolt body in my favorite solvent. Then I'd use a screw driver or something to make sure there's no gunk down in the front that might be blocking the FP fall. As anyone who works on tractors knows, sometimes gunk can mess things up just enough to require a bit more power or fall to get things to work.
 
Yes that is a peep site but that is also how I got this rifle many many years ago. Now finally after hanging on the wall for years I now have it shooting again
 
Only markings if has are the ones that where there when made as in the 1891 Argentine Mauser and the serial number and that is it.
 
I did clean the bolt when it was apart and did my best to remove any and all gunk it had in it as per what Al in ARK had told me on the phone. I used carb cleaner spray and a couple of barrel brushes and some Shooter Choice copper removes stuff I have in my gun cleaning case which by the way is one of those fot by foot but 2 foot tool boxes where I keep my gun cleaning stuff and some other stuff that I have no clue as to what the parts are. Guess I should pull the parts and pieces out and take a picture or 2 and maybe you guy could tell me what I have
 
I like it! built two this last summer using peeps,a 93 spanish and a 98 turkish. working as time allows on restocking a 03-a3 springfield now.ive scoped it,but can remove the scope and use the original peep if needed.replaced the original front with a banded base and wider aftermarket sight. makes it much easier to see with my poor old eyes.
 
I plan on selling it. I want to scale down some so I have fewer sizes of ammo to deal with and it being an odd ball it just does not fit in with the plans. I already have 4 other size rounds I keep on hand and this one would make it 5 so makes since to sell this one and buy another one that uses the same ammo as I already use most of the time
 
(quoted from post at 09:53:08 12/12/12) I like it! built two this last summer using peeps,a 93 spanish and a 98 turkish. working as time allows on restocking a 03-a3 springfield now.ive scoped it,but can remove the scope and use the original peep if needed.replaced the original front with a banded base and wider aftermarket sight. makes it much easier to see with my poor old eyes.
Jack, one of my favorite rifles is a ratty old 95 Mauser 7x57. Wears an equally ratty old Bishop stock and a Williams peep. I think I've actually carried that rifle and shot more stuff with it than anything other than my 22's and trusty old 16 ga Ithaca. Just one of those guns that seems to hits whatever its pointed at. I don't think I could get $100.00 for it, but I wouldn't take $500.00! There's no flies on the grand old 7x57!
 
So now if you had to take a guess as to how much this 1891 Argentine is worth what would you say???
 
IMO most any centerfire rifle in good repair is worth at least $100.00. That rifle I would say a max would be in the $250.00 area. It's sporterized, not original. That decreases value in a rifle like the 91. I'm sorry but the demand for rifles like that just doesn't exist anymore. In original military clothes it might be worth up over $500.00.
 
Yes I understand that the demand for such a rifle is not way up there and due to what has been done makes it less so. My self I like the old Russian rifles and hand guns due to the fact they seem to be some of the hardest built weapons I have seen and ammo is for the most part easy and cheap
 
(quoted from post at 08:33:26 12/13/12) IMO most any centerfire rifle in good repair is worth at least $100.00. That rifle I would say a max would be in the $250.00 area. It's sporterized, not original. That decreases value in a rifle like the 91. I'm sorry but the demand for rifles like that just doesn't exist anymore. In original military clothes it might be worth up over $500.00.

I think you are being generous on your estimate. I would expect to see a $150 price tag on that at a local shop, and it would languish in the rack. It has most everything going against it, obscure caliber, weak action, sporterized, funky magazine.

The only thing it really has going for is the fact it is an antique/pre 1899.
 
Well, these days with people paying $60K for pickups, I figured I add a little.

I wouldn't call the 91 a "weak" action exactly. No, it's not a Arisaka or 98 Mauser, but it's a far stronger action than some of it's contemporaries like our beloved Krag. It's certainly strong enough and made well enough for the original round which is on par with standard 308 ammo. And despite the "funky" mag, it works very, very well. Those that find the M-N in it's various alterations or the SKS or the Steyrs or Mannlichers fun to play with would probably also enjoy the 91 Argie.
 
Only reason I would like to sell it is the fact I have enough varied rifle rounds that to branch out to another one just is not logical
 
IF that rifle was on a rack here,i would seriously look at it for $150. and would be interested at $200 if the rifling at the muzzle looks good. unfortunatly its not here, and would cost a lot to ship it here. JUST 5 RIFLES??? how do you operate? LOL My oldest grand daughter carried more guns than that home with her over the summer so she could target shoot, duck hunt, etc since she's moved to arkansas. She called a few days ago wanting to pick up her old deer rifle when she's here for christmas. I dont mind, it gives me an excuse for buying/building another one,and I would rather them have them than some stranger after im gone.
 
It is more a matter of economics and the fact that having one more size/type of ammo on hand in turns cost me more to be able to shoot so I have been trying to more or less get down to 4 or 5 sizes types of ammo so that reloading and such does not cost as much and the Argentine throw a monkey wrench into things. I figure if I sell it I can in turn replace it with a Russian 7.62X54 or maybe even an SKS but the latter is a lot less likely
 
Note I did not say 5 guns of any sort I said 5 ammo sizes/types!!!!!!! I will not say how many guns I have but will say it is a good number of them but I do collect guns also. I am just trying to narrow down the number of Calipers I have so that ammo is easy to stock pile since having many cals. costs a guy a lot to keep on hand
 
Argentina used the 7.65 like the Belguims and some Turkish Mausers. Mexico and Venuzuala used 7x57 as their military standard a long time- lots of their rifles came here as surplus over the years. RN
 
When I was about 12 my dad bought one of those Modelo Argentino 1891 in original military condition. He took it to a gunsmith and had a Winchester 308 barrel put on it. Then he sent for a Bishop stock which I fitted and finished. Came out great. He added a Weaver K4 scope. I used that rifle for deer hunting . It was really accurate and if I pointed it at something and pulled the trigger, it fell down. Years later I had to sell it to go out of state for a job. I had been out of work for awhile and didn't have any money. Broke my heart to get rid of it. :cry: I would love to have another. If you still have it and are going to sell it , please let me know. Five 2 oh- ate 2 four- 4 one oh 5
 
I have one of those old Argentinian Mausers too. It is indeed an odd caliber 7.65x53mm. I did find out that a 30-06 cartridge can be necked down and cut off to form a 7.65x53 case. I bought a sizer die and trimmer to do that as I have extra 30-06 cases.
 

We sell tractor parts! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today.

Back
Top