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Dalet 11-27-2012 21:43:16 184.94.141.146 Report to Moderator	Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see They do; but they don't export much from those mills. China is busy building their own infrastructure with our old machinery. Guess who will win the next war? The US needs a war going to have enough jobs that don't get outsourced to pay what little of our bills we can pay. Enough politics, Glen, grab some old scrap USA steel and run a bead. Using the same settings run a bead with the new steel. If it doesn't work right, you are right! [Reply]   [No Email]
Stick welding 11-27-2012 22:08:43 96.53.210.246 Report to Moderator	Re: Problems welding Chinese Steel in reply to Dalet, 11-27-2012 21:43:16   China doesn't export their best steel? In case you haven't noticed, China exports everything! Why do think so many jobs are being lost? China has some of the most state of the art facilities in the world and the steel has to meet very stringent international standards. I'm not pro China but just stating facts.   [Reply]  [No Email]
RodInNS 11-28-2012 06:45:16 216.118.158.123 Report to Moderator	Re: Problems welding Chinese Steel in reply to Stick welding, 11-27-2012 22:08:43   Well... one of those state of the art mills came from sydney. Actually I don't remember if it ended up in china or india but that's a coin toss anyhow. That was one of those most advanced electric furnaces of it's day in 1990 when it was installed along with the rail mill they stole at the same time... so yes, they have advanced mills... and it's producing rail for their own infrastructure, not us. Rod   [Reply]  [No Email]
Stick welding 11-28-2012 20:18:41 96.53.210.246 Report to Moderator	Re: Problems welding Chinese Steel in reply to RodInNS, 11-28-2012 06:45:16   I'm not talking about recycled steel mills. I was reading about China producing boiler plate that is second none in a brand new state of the facility. I'm sure they probably produce some bad steel as well but for anything critical, it's fairly easy (relatively speaking) to test the steel to make sure it meets the required specs. I worked in tank shops back in the 80's that would buy cheaper spec. steel and it would be laminated and didn't come from China. China exports steel all over the world. Even Donald Trump doesn't like buying steel and glass from China but it saves him a ton of money. That's why he thinks there should be a 25% tariff on products from China so they are competing on an equal playing field.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Stick welding 11-28-2012 20:12:48 96.53.210.246 Report to Moderator	Re: Problems welding Chinese Steel in reply to RodInNS, 11-28-2012 06:45:16   I'm not talking about recycled steel mills. I was reading about China producing boiler plate that is second none in a brand new state of the facility. I'm sure they probably produce some bad steel as well but for anything critical, it's fairly easy (relatively speaking) to test the steel to make sure it meets the required specs.   [Reply]  [No Email]
RodInNS 11-29-2012 06:55:47 216.118.158.123 Report to Moderator	Re: Problems welding Chinese Steel in reply to Stick welding, 11-28-2012 20:12:48   Electric arc furnaces are where the highest quality steels are produced... It's the most controlled process they have. For making sheer tonnage... that's going to come from a basic oxygen process. Rod   [Reply]  [No Email]