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Re: Problems welding Chinese Steel

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RodInNS

11-27-2012 19:43:31
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They've also got some of the worst steel too...
More likely something else is the problem but you never know.

Rod




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Stick welding

11-27-2012 21:35:12
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 Re: Problems welding Chinese Steel in reply to RodInNS, 11-27-2012 19:43:31  
I realize that but people have to stop blaming everything that goes wrong on China. It could be a high carbon steel or something but unless it says China on it, how would you know where it came from? I was reading a while ago that China has one of the most advanced steel mills in the world.



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JOB

11-28-2012 09:54:05
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 Re: Problems welding Chinese Steel in reply to Stick welding, 11-27-2012 21:35:12  
The company where I last worked bought some of that Chinese steel to save a few bucks. One item that they bought was hot rolled inch and 1/4 X 1/2". The ends did not even have square corners and one end did not even measure close to the inch and 1/4 X 1/2. I have never seen Canadian or US Steel as bad as that.



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RodInNS

11-28-2012 06:37:36
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 Re: Problems welding Chinese Steel in reply to Stick welding, 11-27-2012 21:35:12  
They may indeed have some very advanced mills... Thet've also got the remnants of our old mills from the turn of the last century and the processes that go with them...
One of their main problems is poor quality control... and the fact that they'll ship product whether it's usable or not. Wether it's their fault for shipping it or our for accepting it... is open for debate... but 90% of what comes from that country to our shores is CRAP.

Rod

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Centex Farmall

11-28-2012 20:03:36
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 Re: Problems welding Chinese Steel in reply to RodInNS, 11-28-2012 06:37:36  
A lot of the problem is the people on this end who import the stuff and do not do quality control. Or they hire a chinese contractor to manufacture "x" widget and specification number one is that it has to be low cost.

I've had some chinese things that performed very well. I've also had some that were worth less than the material they were made out of.



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RodInNS

11-29-2012 09:12:51
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 Re: Problems welding Chinese Steel in reply to Centex Farmall, 11-28-2012 20:03:36  
The biggest problem is that there's no quality control at the source... Even stuff done on spec has no measurable control. The manufacturers on this end that are buying on spec simply look at the cost and say... if I have to toss 10% or 20% or whatever... and it's still cheaper than buying here... so be it.
I know a guy who works in engineering at one of the more prominent auger manufacturers in Canada... and they started buying gearboxes from china a number of years ago... I think it was something like a 20% reject rate on stuff coming to them. But ask yourself... if they reject 10-20% outright.... how good are the ones that make the cut? Just good enough? Good enough for 1 year? 5 years? 20 years? Suppose they paid 50% more for a Hub City that will probably last 25 years if appropriately sized... and it adds 50 bucks to the price tag... is their name really worth that little?
Then there certainly is, as mfpoor has said... US manufacturers that do produce absolute junk, stamp the flag on it and call it good. It's done here too...

Rod

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MF Poor

11-28-2012 06:47:04
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 Re: Problems welding Chinese Steel in reply to RodInNS, 11-28-2012 06:37:36  
For whatever it's worth, a friend of mine who is from South Africa says the very same thing about US made products. Seems to be a common theme with many products you buy these days from a number of sources



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