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Re: More U.S. made goes bye bye

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wisbaker

11-26-2012 20:42:01
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Maybe my comment on Global warming was misunderstood what we are experiencing is part of a normal cycle, in my opinion the earth is still trying to establish equilibrium OR is responding to other major events that have disrupted the balance, like volcanic eruptions. The idea that we caused it or we can stop or reverse it is absurd. Claims made by global warming proponents are exaggerated and papers done years ago proposed we would be a lot warmer now than we actually are. The way in which the work was presented and the lack of openness about how the conclusions were made makes me skeptical and the lack of the correlation of their projections to what actually happened over the last 20 years would indicate further discredits the work in my opinion. Projections they made 20 years ago have not occurred, they were wrong.

If global warming projections were indeed accurate and methods and models used to develop these conclusions was shared AND actual weather occurrences were plugged into the model as they occurred and the projections updated as actual data could displace projected data it might lend it more credibility. The problem is if they do that (apply the scientific method and use normal statistical analysis) their hypothesis or conclusions would not be proven right. The model is using various greenhouse gas concentrations to project an increased warming trend. Some of the data I have seen indicates that increasing greenhouse gas levels are a RESULT of warmer temperatures not a CAUSE.

About the break comments, I remember specific break requirements listed on our poster by the time clock when I worked in Tennessee, I assumed they were federal requirements after further research it was a Tennessee law, not federal. My research indicates Wisconsin has no such law. Who would of thought a Southern Right-to-Work state affords their workers a greater degree of protection and benefits than a "progressive" state like Wisconsin?

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casenut1

11-26-2012 21:34:09
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 Re: More U.S. made goes bye bye in reply to wisbaker, 11-26-2012 20:42:01  
I agree with you 100%. The problem is somebody's friend named Al something or other has figured out a way to scare people and make money off of it.



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Billy Shafer

11-27-2012 04:53:45
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 Re: More U.S. made goes bye bye in reply to casenut1, 11-26-2012 21:34:09  
Friend of mine lives near Al Gores house. Said that mansion burns more electricity in one month. Than most do in a year. Plus let us not forget his fleet of SUVs a private jet and the many other gas burners he has.

But I guess when you are out there ripping people off you can afford it.



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Bob Huntress

11-26-2012 21:55:44
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 Re: More U.S. made goes bye bye in reply to casenut1, 11-26-2012 21:34:09  
In my opinion, that is half the problem. Some have found a way to get money from fearmongering. At the heart of nearly every policy that government and the UN have developed to solve the global warming issue only transfers wealth to prefered persons. While nation, such as America are expected to reduce emissions, no such demands are expected of prefered nations, such as China, in any of the treaties floated by the UN, such as the now defunked Kyoto. Nothing is mentioned of using technology to reverse the effects. You would think that with all the depleted ozones that some greenie hippy type would start talking about rebuilding that depleted ozone layer, but, no. What we get is why we should buy hybreds and greenie endorsed products and pay a carbon tax. No mention of what things we should actually do to save the icebergs and polar bears. It's a money making scam. Even those who research the matter would lose their research grants if they ever said that there was no man made global warming.

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Centex Farmall

11-26-2012 21:05:47
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 Re: More U.S. made goes bye bye in reply to wisbaker, 11-26-2012 20:42:01  
Scientist have found evidence that shows at different times that the earth has been both completely covered in ice and completely devoid of ice caps.

If a comet hits the planet it will be blamed on car exhaust.



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