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Re: More U.S. made goes bye bye

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11-26-2012 13:56:25

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I am so sick and tired of union bashing! If you do some research you would find the Twinkies company had ten or more CEO's and numerous managment problems prior to thier closing.They wanted the union to take up to a thirty percent cut in wages. Can you survive on a thirty percent reduction in wages? Hell no!!!!! US companies are reporting record profits and the medium US workers wages are at an all time low since the 1960's. Do your home work before you make stupid statements.

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11-26-2012 20:20:34

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 Re: More U.S. made goes bye bye in reply to Gchase24, 11-26-2012 13:56:25  
So 100% wage cut is better than 30% then.

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11-26-2012 19:19:45

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 Re: More U.S. made goes bye bye in reply to Gchase24, 11-26-2012 13:56:25  
I'm with you I'm tired of the union bashing too. It's seems the American people can't see the decline in wages and benefits and they kick the very people that are trying to limit that. CEO'S get big bonuses while laying off people or cutting salaries. If they were any kind of leader they'd take pay cuts and refuse raises. Hostess employees had already taken wage concessions. One example I saw was a guys salary was reduced from $47,000 to $25,000. Then there's no guarantee that these people still wouldn't loose their job.

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11-26-2012 17:41:21

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 Re: More U.S. made goes bye bye in reply to Gchase24, 11-26-2012 13:56:25  
SOME US companies are recording record profits. Others are recording record losses. My wife works for a US Defense contractor (who will remain nameless for obvious reasons) It's union and has been since 1941. They're in the midst of a final production run, When done, the plant will be scrapped out, and production moves "off shore". They have another plant in Georgia that started production in 1988. It's fully automated, non union, pays better than union plant here, and has a 550% higher profit margin according to company news letter. The plant located here had the option of re-negotiating union contract, and building a new automated plant. Union refused to budge. They (union officers) wouldn't even bring it to a vote by current employees. They effectively shot their foot clean off. Plant closes in 60 days. 335 jobs gone. Owners have decided not to invest in another US based plant for fear of putting all their proverbial eggs in one basket.

Stupid is as stupid does. I hope the union morons are proud of themselves. They've chased 72 years of American jobs right out of the country by something as simple as being pig headed and ignorant.

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11-27-2012 04:16:45

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 Re: More U.S. made goes bye bye in reply to MF Poor, 11-26-2012 17:41:21  
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Very well said sir! What the simple minded seem to forget is that while unions were once looking out for the members and fighting big business, now the unions are looking out for their professional union people and ARE big business. Negotiation wages and benefits is one thing, expecting a company and it's owners to operate at a loss so the line workers can make $50.00 an hour with full medical , dental, eye glasses, 2-4 weeks vacation and a good retirement...that's nuts. If you want that get out of private industry and go to work for the gov't. Even then those days are waning.

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Tom in TN

11-26-2012 14:34:52

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 Re: More U.S. made goes bye bye in reply to Gchase24, 11-26-2012 13:56:25  

I don't know about the negotiations at Hostess, but based on your statement, the bakers faced a reduction of 30% in pay. I know that I would have a hard time with a 30% reduction, but I would be willing to accept a 100% reduction.

Oh, wait. Maybe that wouldn't be too good either.

Tom in TN

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