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Re: RUMOR MILL?

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Lanse

11-04-2012 08:01:07
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Thats just another of Mitt's lies.

I live in Ohio, near Dayton which has been hit exceptionally hard by the national recession, and its own local recession which has been happening in some form or the other for years.

I moved here in 2004, since then Delphi (a huge parts supplier to GM) ended its operations here and tens of thousands of locals lost their jobs directly related to the closure or indirectly, because the entire economy suffered when everyone that had a job that in one way or another, supported Delphi lost it.

Shortly thereafter, the national recession hit, which made everything worse and a number of the other larger employers in this area left. Some went to other states, some closed their doors permanently.

Here recently, NCR (National Cash Register) which was the remaining large commercial employer closed up, which put thousands more out of work. Dowtown Dayton looks like Downtown Detroit, there are closed up buildings and factories and warehouses and run-down neighborhoods all over the place. Cleveland is the same way.

These people suffer, there is not much money here.

And NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING will put fear into their hearts like the threat of another large employer leaving. Ohio was hit hard by the recession, and in that part of the state, a large number of jobs are directly tied to the automotive market.

I understand what Mitt was trying to do, Ohio, as we all know is a swing state and that man will do anything he can to win it over. If a person convinces people in this state that voting a certain way will magically end Ohio's economic problems, you can bet the election they will do it.

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wgm

11-04-2012 17:58:18
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 Re: RUMOR MILL? in reply to Lanse, 11-04-2012 08:01:07  
I know this will rile up the 47 percenters but eligible voters should be limited to tax paying property owners twenty years or older.



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MarkB_MI

11-06-2012 02:45:13
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 Re: RUMOR MILL? in reply to wgm, 11-04-2012 17:58:18  
WGM, your proposal would prevent most of the military enlisted personnel from voting, and a fair number of NCOs and officers. Why don't you want military personnel to vote?



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Gambles

11-04-2012 15:20:41
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 Re: RUMOR MILL? in reply to Lanse, 11-04-2012 08:01:07  
You are fresh out of high school, you legally can't drink a beer, you have no real post-high school education yet, and you haven't really had enough of a job to pay steady taxes. Yet you are the expert on who is the biggest liar in politics? You obviously haven't paid any attention to current events the last four years. Terrific.



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Jason the Red

11-10-2012 16:16:01
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 Re: RUMOR MILL? in reply to Gambles, 11-04-2012 15:20:41  
What exactly qualifies you as an expert?? Lanse stated his opinion and his view of current events. He is entitled to his view whether you agree or not. "Judge not lest ye be judged."



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HillsOfTN

11-04-2012 12:14:36
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 Re: RUMOR MILL? in reply to Lanse, 11-04-2012 08:01:07  
Lanse, do you REALLY believe the Other Guy hasn"t lied to you??????? I admire your enthusiasm, but you have got a lot to learn about blind faith in ANY politician and especially ANY political party.



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jimva

11-04-2012 15:06:14
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 Re: RUMOR MILL? in reply to HillsOfTN, 11-04-2012 12:14:36  
I can understand Lanse's view to a point. But we have to remember he's not even 20 yet. The full reality of life hasnt been set on his shoulders. The nights of going to bed wondering if theres going to be enough money in the bank at the end of the month to pay all the bills. Whether or not the full implimentation of Obamacare is going to bankrupt his business or will he be able to comply with new gov regulations, or how his customers will react to a price increase on his products so that he will be able to cover the cost of keeping his business open. Or how this president is able to take lavish vacations on taxpayer dime, while his vacations consist of staying home because hes not able to afford to go anywhere.

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NCWayne

11-04-2012 16:53:59
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 Re: RUMOR MILL? in reply to jimva, 11-04-2012 15:06:14  
Yeah, funny how Mr Obama is shooting for all of the votes from the younger generation that have the same outlook on things to get him re-elected. Were he to rely on those of us that actually have a small business and work for a living his chances would be about equal to a snowball in he!!.................

That said my wife supplies the insurance in our family through her work. The minute Obamacare started our coverage got more expensive and less inclusive than what we had had for years.....Talked to a guy a few months back that owns a small business with about 10 employees.Said the minute everything goes into full effect he's going to have to shut the doors because he can't afford to comply with all of the BS Obamacare says he has to do....... Talked to an older neighbor yesterday and because of the changes, where he was paying nothing in copays, he is now going to have to start paying them. Basically someone on a fixed income now being forced to pay out money he doesn't have....

Say what you want about what Obama says, and then look at what he has actually done if not directly then indirectly, and you'll know who NOT to vote for on Tuesday.........

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Dean

11-04-2012 13:52:32
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 Re: RUMOR MILL? in reply to HillsOfTN, 11-04-2012 12:14:36  
Bingo!

Dean



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