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Re: Welding copper to be drinking safe

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Rich_WI

11-01-2012 17:57:50
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The officers you talked to are idiots or intentionally lied to you. Distilling even one drop without a permit is illegal if that spirit is ment for human consumption. Dont believe me? Call or email the people that would likely be prosecuting you, the BATF. The "A" in BATF does not stand for "and", just so you know.
Like I said before, I understand people are going to break the law, I just think its important to know when you are breaking the law. At least then you can look at the crime and decide if its worth the time.
Spirits

You cannot produce spirits for beverage purposes without paying taxes and without prior approval of paperwork to operate a distilled spirits plant. [See 26 U.S.C. 5601 & 5602 for some of the criminal penalties.] There are numerous requirements that must be met that make it impractical to produce spirits for personal or beverage use. Some of these requirements are paying special tax, filing an extensive application, filing a bond, providing adequate equipment to measure spirits, providing suitable tanks and pipelines, providing a separate building (other than a dwelling) and maintaining detailed records, and filing reports. All of these requirements are listed in 27 CFR Part 19.
Ray emailed the BATF for the reference statutes concerning home distillation. Here is their response:

Ray, you have not been able to locate anything on home production because there is no provision for it. Moonshining is still illegal!! Unlike wine or beer, the laws and regulations governing distilled spirits contain no provision that would allow someone to produce spirits in their home for personal use. Under 26 U.S.C. Section 5171 operations as a distiller, warehouseman or processor may be conducted only on the bonded premises of a qualified distilled spirits plant. To qualify such a plant, a registration, application for permit and bond must be filed in addition to other supporting organizational documents. 26 U.S.C. 5178 places restrictions on where a plant can be located. Hope this answers your question.

Carol Coy
Industry Specialist
National Revenue Center-Cincinnati, OH
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
e-mail: cjcoy@cinc.atf.treas.gov

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 Re: Welding copper to be drinking safe in reply to Rich_WI, 11-01-2012 17:57:50  
Ah so goes back to poabition (sp) then and why it can not be done and be legal but then lots of laws are out there that people break all the time not knowing and many are so old that few even know the law is still there. I. E. it is not legal for a person in MI to have a mud puddle in there yard for 24 hours. Yep still on the book but not enforced



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