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Re: Ford 532 Baler Disaster

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10-15-2012 12:55:29

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The NH part may fit... but probably not. The critical parts like the bill hooks ARE the same... but once you deviate out further in the larger parts the design is different.
What you can do is go to NH online parts and look up what you need. Then take that number and plug it into Messicks parts online and see if it supercedes to something else. If it does, keep following it and see if it's available or what it fits.
A NH dealer can also plug the part # into PAL and see what else it fits besides that baler.
They may also be able to still do a parts broadcast requesting any other dealers with NOS on the shelf to fill your part order if they wish. They used to have that feature anyhow... unless that's been done away with.

As far as the shattered part... if you can find the crumbs sometimes Humpty can be put back together. You just need the critical stuff to get the angle right. Cast usually breaks pretty clean without distorting so as long as you can jig it the way it needs to be set and hold it... someone with cast experience can probably weld it.

I don't know of any wreckers that would bother keeping a baler like that in the yard. You could try Fawcett tractor. They might also steer you to someone who does wreck that stuff.
I find that every year or so I see a 532 or 542 in the junk sale. I've yet to drag one home... The last one was kinda nice and went for over 650 which I thought was a bit dear for a parts haul... that I'd have had to float home because it had junk tires.


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Nathan Skipper

10-15-2012 19:28:50

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 Re: Ford 532 Baler Disaster in reply to RodInNS, 10-15-2012 12:55:29  
After working their website to the bone, I finally called the parts hotline for messicks. Very helpful people. They did find a warehouse for obsolete parts that has the entire knotter assembly, but they're wanting $800+, and it weighs 70 lbs, so shipping is going to add a good bit to that.

On a brighter note, my friend had an almost complete knotter assembly off a ford baler, and the cam gear looks good on it. The trick right now is getting the sucker off. The rest of the assembly is rusted into a solid piece, just about, especially around the shaft. I'll peck away at it till I get it off of there, and maybe that will have me back in business for spring. Thanks for the help.

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10-16-2012 08:45:45

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 Re: Ford 532 Baler Disaster in reply to Nathan Skipper, 10-15-2012 19:28:50  
That might be cheap but before I spent 800 I would cut my losses and go buy a new holland that I know I can buy parts for. Who knows what might crap out next on the ford, then the 800 was all for nothing.

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10-15-2012 19:40:47

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 Re: Ford 532 Baler Disaster in reply to Nathan Skipper, 10-15-2012 19:28:50  
If you can get a complete NOS knotter for 800 bucks and intend to keep the baler... I think I'd be all over that. That is so cheap you don't know how cheap yet. Each bill hook is 100 on the nose...
The main things you should be asking yourself is ... how good are the plunger guides and the baler frame generally... along with the hard parts of the pickup. If that's all in good shape most of the rest can be repaired with a bit of ingenuity.
I'm tempted to go after that knotter myself if you don't...


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Nathan Skipper

10-16-2012 10:30:46

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 Re: Ford 532 Baler Disaster in reply to RodInNS, 10-15-2012 19:40:47  
Actually, I think Messicks said they had two in stock. Either way, go right ahead. I'm going to see how this spare cam gear plays out. I can't bring myself to sink that much more money into it. As has been advised, I'd rather cut my losses and get a baler that's not obsolete.

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10-16-2012 13:12:41

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 Re: Ford 532 Baler Disaster in reply to Nathan Skipper, 10-16-2012 10:30:46  
I can't argue with getting something that's not obsolete... I've said that to many on here, many times... mabey including you.
That said... there's a fair bit of NH stuff that's gotten very obsolete as well. If you're running from that boogeyman... you better jump ahead to something like a 565 or that generation. That will cost a lot more money that a knotter stack...
I don't mind spending a bit of money on something like that IF the rest of the machine is still usable.


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Nathan Skipper

10-18-2012 09:13:42

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 Re: Ford 532 Baler Disaster in reply to RodInNS, 10-16-2012 13:12:41  

New development. I told messicks I didn't want it, and they came back and said the obsolete supplier is looking to clear that inventory. They dropped the price to $495. I've both one of them, but they have another one left. You may want to call and see if they will do the same for you. A brand new cam gear with pinions is $375. $495 for the whole knotter assembly... how bout that?!

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10-19-2012 07:59:25

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 Re: Ford 532 Baler Disaster in reply to Nathan Skipper, 10-18-2012 09:13:42  
Is this stuff on Messick's shelf or the aftermarket supplier? If it's on the aftermarket supplier's shelf it might be more to my advantage to go through my own dealer...


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Nathan Skipper

10-19-2012 10:34:03

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 Re: Ford 532 Baler Disaster in reply to RodInNS, 10-19-2012 07:59:25  
It"s on the supplier"s shelf.

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10-16-2012 18:43:12

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 Re: Ford 532 Baler Disaster in reply to RodInNS, 10-16-2012 13:12:41  
Atleast in my area you will find about 100 new hollands to 1 ford so even if the part is NLA you have a chance of finding it. I run a 326 myself.

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Nathan Skipper

10-15-2012 13:14:16

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 Re: Ford 532 Baler Disaster in reply to RodInNS, 10-15-2012 12:55:29  
Thanks for the response... very helpful. I think I might have lucked up... but I will know for certain after work. I just found out that a friend of a friend has some old ford baler parts, and he actually has a whole knotter assembly. I sure hope it works out.

If it doesn't, I will definitely try your idea of tracing down the part number on messicks and contacting Fawcetts. I tried ordering the part from Messicks, which is how I came to know that it is discontinued. But, they haven't responded to my question about cross-matching parts. Maybe they will, though.

It is strange how this stuff is both irritating but fun at the same time. Irritating, that I bought equipment that broke and have crop wasting on the ground, yet fun in the inventive and investigative sense. Or maybe I'm just masochistic.

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