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Topic: Oxygen/gasoline cutting torch
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JOB

08-21-2012 18:16:57
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I will try this again. I should have verified that it would connect.




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Don L.

08-22-2012 07:06:08
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 Re: Oxygen/gasoline cutting torch in reply to JOB, 08-21-2012 18:16:57  
I have talked to a few people who had a gasoline torch. None of them use them today. Very aggressive, too much for for them. Kinda said you could not find a hired hand to stay with it. To cut and save anything won't happen another said.
Just what I heard. They are on Ebay as well.
Don L.



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showcrop

08-22-2012 06:36:16
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 Re: Oxygen/gasoline cutting torch in reply to JOB, 08-21-2012 18:16:57  
It is good to see the reference to the fire fighters working with the union steel workers and pipe fitters. Not to take away from what the firefighters do, and I served for 35 years, but sometimes they would just charge in and take over, unknowingly pushing the experts aside and figuring out some very difficult ways of performing some simple tasks.



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tomturkey

08-22-2012 04:52:21
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 Re: Oxygen/gasoline cutting torch in reply to JOB, 08-21-2012 18:16:57  
Had never heardnabout this!! Pretty impressive! If I was a scrapper I would think the speed and relative cost would allow you to cut to size and get the most for you scrap. I learnsomething new just about everyday hanging around this website. gobble



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NCWayne

08-21-2012 20:20:04
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 Re: Oxygen/gasoline cutting torch in reply to JOB, 08-21-2012 18:16:57  
Looks like there are more than one or two companies making them now. Watched a show some years back showing the militaries disaster teams using the gasoline torches. I think the ones being shown at the time were made by a place called O-petrol. Then there is Petrogen, and now it lookes like the company in your link.

The funny thing was the same night saw the footage of the disaster teams using them, I had just watched a show a few hours earlier showing telling about the torches and how even the military used then because they were so safe and convient.

I don't remember the ratio, but one gallon of gas equals a huge amount of acetylene. Now, take into the account the fact that the acetylene is explosive in the bottle, and in the hose all the way to the torch, then look at the fact that the gasoline is in a liquid state in the bottle and the hose, and therefore not explosive until it reaches the torch head, and you have a much cheaper, safer fuel source. On the show I was watching they actually had the gas container setting in a fire. I can't remember the rating but it was rated for direct exposure to fire for x amount of time where an acetylene bottle would blow it's fuse annd 'make a mess'.

Add to all of that the fact that it burns hotter than acetylene, will cut multiple layers like a plasma, an it's really the best choice around for cutting out in the field. The biggest drawback is the expense, but for someone buying their first set, and planning to use it alot, it would be well worth it and pay for itself in no time with enough use. If I ever get the opportunity of having a good enough excuse to spend the money required, I plan to get one for myself.

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Brad Buchanan

08-22-2012 13:18:29
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 Re: Oxygen/gasoline cutting torch in reply to NCWayne, 08-21-2012 20:20:04  
Interesting.

I wonder if there is an issue with gasoline becoming less stable or the multiple formulations for different seasons.

Would seem to be a poor platform for experimentation.

Brad



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NCWayne

08-22-2012 18:24:19
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 Re: Oxygen/gasoline cutting torch in reply to Brad Buchanan, 08-22-2012 13:18:29  
What makes it safer than acetylene is that liquid gas will not burn. Acetylene is unstable and explosive at pressures above 15 psi, more or less, regardless of temp. Gasoline, on the other hand, isn't unstable regardless of the pressure, and from what I understand the flashpoint goes up as the pressure increases.
That said the flash point of gasoline is higher than the flashpoint of acetylene right off the bat, and in the torch setup the gasoline is stored in an insulated, pressurized container. As a result of these liquid storage state of the gasoline, the container it's stored in, etc, the whole setup is much safer than acetylene that could be stored under the same conditions and still be explosive, even without an outside heat source.

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JOB

08-22-2012 03:29:56
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 Re: Oxygen/gasoline cutting torch in reply to NCWayne, 08-21-2012 20:20:04  
I wonder what justifies the price they want or get for the set up. I thought I saw a price in the neighborhood of $3,000.



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Loosehandle

08-21-2012 20:19:40
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 Re: Oxygen/gasoline cutting torch in reply to JOB, 08-21-2012 18:16:57  
I have smaller oxygen tank than 280 & its waaay more than $8 for a refill.....



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Ralphwd45

08-21-2012 19:11:48
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 Re: Oxygen/gasoline cutting torch in reply to JOB, 08-21-2012 18:16:57  
I have been using propane for cutting, and heating(rosebud) , but it is too cold for welding. I am not sure that I save many dollars, over aceteline, because it uses more oxygen, which is 20 miles away, and only open during week days, and business hours. Always run out late evenings, or on week ends. BUMMER.



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Stick welding

08-21-2012 20:55:19
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 Re: Oxygen/gasoline cutting torch in reply to Ralphwd45, 08-21-2012 19:11:48  
Propane uses about 3 times more oxygen than acetylene and won't work for welding at all because it is not a true neutral flame like acetylene.



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GeneMO

08-21-2012 18:29:04
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 Re: Oxygen/gasoline cutting torch in reply to JOB, 08-21-2012 18:16:57  
Never heard of it, but it sure sounds cool.

Gene



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