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Topic: hardsteel bolts
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KevinRM1976

07-19-2012 05:37:59
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I cannot find hard steel ready rod. I was told If i heated up regular rod red hot it would work is this true?




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Wile E

07-20-2012 02:25:11
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 Re: hardsteel bolts in reply to KevinRM1976, 07-19-2012 05:37:59  
Heat treating metal is somewhat of an art to get the right rockwell hardness and the right temper.
Buy a chunk of O-1 tool steel, mild carbon steel will not harden correctly due to not enough carbon in the material.



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Joe(TX)

07-19-2012 18:50:28
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 Re: hardsteel bolts in reply to KevinRM1976, 07-19-2012 05:37:59  
Not all steel can be hardened. If it is 1018, It can not be hardened.
Heat treated threaded rod is available though.



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MarkB_MI

07-19-2012 17:32:16
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 Re: hardsteel bolts in reply to KevinRM1976, 07-19-2012 05:37:59  
By "harder" I assume you mean "high tensile strength". You can heat and quench mild steel to make it hard (brittle), but you have use better steel if you want to increase tensile strength.



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bison

07-19-2012 10:07:33
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 Re: hardsteel bolts in reply to KevinRM1976, 07-19-2012 05:37:59  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeAny bolt/bearing store worth its salt has Grade 8 ready rod



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BSpauld

07-19-2012 09:20:14
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 Re: hardsteel bolts in reply to KevinRM1976, 07-19-2012 05:37:59  
Way back when I worked, I would buy gold colored threaded rod and that could be hardened by heating with a torch and quenched in oil



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Russ from MN

07-19-2012 07:33:55
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 Re: hardsteel bolts in reply to KevinRM1976, 07-19-2012 05:37:59  
Fastenal can provide what you need. Remember the old saying, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear!



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sflem849

07-19-2012 07:10:32
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 Re: hardsteel bolts in reply to KevinRM1976, 07-19-2012 05:37:59  
No to mention that if you truely wanted to harden something you would need to do it in with an even, controlled heat source. This would not be your torch.



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rustyfarmall

07-19-2012 06:40:17
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 Re: hardsteel bolts in reply to KevinRM1976, 07-19-2012 05:37:59  
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Most of that ready rod is made of cold rolled steel. You can heat it, quench it, heat it again, quench it again until you're tired of it and you won't change the hardness or strength of it. Not even one little bit.



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timcasbolt

07-19-2012 06:17:13
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 Re: hardsteel bolts in reply to KevinRM1976, 07-19-2012 05:37:59  
I doubt heating and quenching that stuff would make it any harder. It's usually made from low carbon steel, and you would need to carborize it to harden it. I keep a can of kasenit around the shop for this purpose. Not practical for big stuff, but does a good job with just a torch and a bucket of water.



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Big Dog

07-19-2012 06:01:29
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 Re: hardsteel bolts in reply to KevinRM1976, 07-19-2012 05:37:59  
Kevin,

Heat it up to being WHITE-HOT and put it in some motor oil (could be used oil) and let it there overnite.

Joe



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