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To Build a Better Mousetrap

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Lanse

05-02-2012 14:25:19
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Hey yall!!

Well, its 82 degrees here, and I only have a week and a half of school left until I graduate. Its that time of year when school's almost out, the weather is finally getting nice, and most of all, when I start thinking about things to build and videos to make.

Does anyone by chance have any ideas of projects? I really like building 3 point equipment, I can make it from salvage steel (remnants and drops) which keeps my costs down, and those videos seem to go over pretty well. But honestly, Im looking to branch out a little. I want to try something new, but I don't know what.Trailers I want no part of (for the most part), and Ive made a few 4x4 bumpers, but Im trying to come up with new ideas. Im not very good at this. Im drawing up plans for a driveway grader drag that someone on here gave me the idea of (thanks again). My plan is to use thin wall tubing and design it so that most of the frame will be filled with concrete (steel is expensive, and having the buyer add their own weight isnt something they probably want to do) to keep the weight up and the cost down.

The fence unrollers were another suggestion a little over a year ago, I may make more of those.

Does anyone have any other ideas? ANYTHING is greatly appreciated. I can come up with a design, build it and sell it, its just that initial "spark" which I can't seem to get.

But anyways, a few days ago I had the pleasure to meet JCarrol, who drove down and bought the last of my carryalls that I made in february/march. I was thinking about making some more of those, but Im not too sure I want to. There's not much to them, and I want to build a better mousetrap. I flipped through one of the Lincoln books that I have here and found this design, which I'd really like to make. The problem is, that Im not sure that it would sell. I mean, I sold the other carryalls Ive made saying they were great for moving fencing supplies, posts, chunks of firewood, etc. What can the bigger, better carryall do that the smaller ones can't? Do you guys think that someone would be willing to pay for something better if they can pick up something cheaper and smaller at the store? Hypothetically, if you were looking for a carryall like this, what would you be willing to pay for it? Im just looking for ideas here. Hope this post finds everyone well, and thanks in advance :)

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TomH in Pa

05-04-2012 13:23:15
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Lanse, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
How'd the repair of the junkyard equipment go? There's always a need for someone who can put expensive equipment back together.



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da.bees

05-04-2012 11:18:39
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Lanse, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
Something to give old men energy like you have. Seriously,your inthuseasum is bound to carry you far Lanse. From the profit standpoint custom built items have several advantages over production type jobs. Think of it like this. A coustomer willing to pay well for an item he can't buy off the shelf also values quility workmanship. Each happy customer will talk to others about his "just like I need"item and how well it's constructed. I believe your days of building things to gain experience and recoup cost is behind you. Now it's time to build a repitation that causes people to seek you out. When you find yourself telling customers that if they would like,you will take a deposit and start their project on xx date and have it finished on xx,you will have arrived. Oh,there is another indicator. When these old hands start asking your advice.
Good luck. Now go get'um.

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Truck

05-03-2012 16:56:41
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Lanse, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
There are a few Cub Cadet sleeve hitch implements that might sell ok if you join a Cub board....Gannon, scraper blade, belly grader attachments....

Or I could just ship my shredder up to ya and have you build a new one around the gearbox....that'd keep ya busy for a while..

If they are foreclosing homes around you a removeable theftproof steel door might sell to your local bankers....



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Lyndon - AB

05-03-2012 15:44:58
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Lanse, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
Hey Lanse,

Have you looked at Miller's website? They have a section full of projects.

http://www.millerwelds.com/interests/projects/



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Kansas4010

05-03-2012 14:24:13
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Lanse, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
How about 3pt trailer hitch for moving trailers around.



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glennster

05-03-2012 12:53:11
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Lanse, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
how about a brush grapple to mount on a tractor loader? i built a little trailer that my generator drops in and tow it behind the golf cart or lawn mower. another project i'm working on is a 3 point attachment that will clamp to a cutting torch cart so you can back in, clamp on, raise the torch and head on out!!



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dave2

05-03-2012 04:35:08
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Lanse, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
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That pic is your calling little brother.....

Pencil it out and see if you can make anything.

Toughen the forks up a little and make em 40 inches long and 2ft apart.

Maybe make em fold up outta the way.

Make uprights 40 inches long with collars on the bottom to slide over the forks and pin in place (several sets of holes on the forks).
Better yet, to keep the forks strong, use a thumbscrew type setup on the upright.

Couple of well placed hooks and rings for chains/ropes.

Make it up, strap it on a pallet, and sell as a universal carryall/bale fork...

Joe blow uses it as a fork when needed, folds it up and sets it against the wall (or leaves it on the tractor) when not needed.

Slides that pallet thru the forks and locks the uprights in place when he needs a carryall

Uses just the fork and uprights to cut and bring home 4ft+/- sections of firewood from the back 40...

I've got a real tuff but simple folding bale fork that would be a good base if you want a pic or two....

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SweetFeet

05-03-2012 04:10:21
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Lanse, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
1.Torch carts that can be towed behind a tractor.
2.Can crusher that crushes either 12 or 16 oz cans (son built one - it is awesome, far better than you can purchase anywhere).
3.Small outdoor tables to put near the ends of a bench or between patio chairs.
4.Target stand for shooting, adjustable height with clips to hold paper targets and hanging steel gong targets.
5.Planter holder for outdoors with nice looking legs, but also a bottom spike that goes into the ground (lots of cemeteries require their usage versus planting in the ground).
6.Adjustable height campfire cookers that can hold a castiron pot or a grill rack over a fire.
7.Welded art/yard-art.
8. Small shop work tables OR metal roller stands for band saw cutting long metal... but the base is an X with a thumb screw to tighten them when open (so they can be folded flat and hung on the wall to conserve shop space when not in use - husband has some of both that either he or our son have made).

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Lanse

05-03-2012 05:20:18
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to SweetFeet, 05-03-2012 04:10:21  
Industrial can crushers? THERES an idea!! Thanks for the suggestions!!



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bobpa

05-02-2012 20:09:20
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Lanse, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
heavy duty mailbox with decorative posts. ones the snowplow trucks won't wreck with heavy wet snow in the winter.



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Lanse

05-03-2012 05:19:05
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to bobpa, 05-02-2012 20:09:20  
Ive really thought about that!! But the only issue I see is the liability one... Some drunk guy hits it, it goes through his windshield and kills him, and its my problem. Damn lawyers :(



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Kansas4010

05-02-2012 19:47:32
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Lanse, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
Yeah thats for moving bales of hay around. I dont see any problem with converting it to a carryall though. Most people use spikes now so you could probably go to a farm sale and buy one cheaper than you could make one. If you do decide to make one that one is pretty light duty. The better ones have where the top link hooks on slotted so it will float along the ground. You don't find those to often. If you want some ideas look down below about the shovel art. A guy around here used to have a mailbox that looked like a dragon. It was really cool till someone hit it.

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Morgan Flowers

05-02-2012 18:58:28
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to sflem849, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
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If you live close to the amish how about a forecart or pto forecart? They sell well at the amish auctions that I have been to in Indiana/Ohio.



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Lanse

05-03-2012 05:16:27
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Morgan Flowers, 05-02-2012 18:58:28  
Thanks for the idea, Morgan!! Unfortunately, I live in Southern Ohio, and as far as I know all the Amish are upstate.

We've got German Baptists here, they dress a lot like the Amish but they drive cars and have electricity and all...



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Ryan - WI

05-02-2012 18:23:25
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Dan in North Houston, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
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That looks like a 3 pt round bale mover to me.



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fergienewbee

05-02-2012 17:28:09
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Lanse, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
For a real challenge, how about a log arch? They look kind of simple, except maybe for the wheels/axles.

Just a thought; I use my carry-all with a four-foot box to haul wood. What if you made something a little bigger/stronger for heavier/larger tractors? I have a TO-30 and when my box is stacked full, it's all the weight I want, but a bigger tractor could handle more weight. By the way, I enjoyed your video making the carry-all. Wish I would have learned to type and weld.

Plans after graduation?
Larry

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Lanse

05-02-2012 17:50:49
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to fergienewbee, 05-02-2012 17:28:09  
You mean something like this?

Its a possibility, I might be able to sell something like it around here



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dennis min

05-02-2012 16:21:51
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Lanse, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
Lanse,

Perhaps universal skidsteer attachments...

D.



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Lanse

05-02-2012 17:52:59
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to dennis min, 05-02-2012 16:21:51  
Ive thought about that!! But I dont have a skid steer to try them on. What kinds of things are you thinking of? Thanks for the idea.



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Steve Terplak

05-02-2012 15:56:24
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Lanse, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
if you enjoyed making 3pt. equiptment...how about some tow-behind implements for garden tractors/4 wheelers...
lawn roller, dethatcher, ring harrow, maybe smaller trailers for those purposes...i have always found most garden sized trailers to be too light for my purposes...
i know here (upstate ny) there are plenty of people w/ acreage but no tractor/3pt....
just a thought.

also, friend of mine who was trying to start his own business welding made decorative things as well...made beautiful steel roses - always sold out around valentine's day, some artistic pieces, custom family crest/emblems out of wrought iron...

just a couple ideas.
congrats on graduating.

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Jim in Ma.

05-02-2012 15:51:00
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Lanse, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
Off the wall but - How about something like your carryall but with a school bus seat mounted facing foreward for someone wanting to take riders in a parade.
Remenber "Seat Belts".



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dr sportster

05-02-2012 14:44:02
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 Re: To Build a Better Mousetrap in reply to Lanse, 05-02-2012 14:25:19  
There is an old skool Lincoln book about welding and fabricating farm equipment.The book WELDERS HANDBOOK has projects in the back. About the only engine stand you can buy is too light duty for something like a BB Chev or a Hemi and there is a market for extra heavy duty engine stands.Do you have cards made up? If so give them out tractor and car shows and bike meets . Gas stations also occasionally need a guy to weld onto a broken stud .Now that you are graduating you should either go into biz with full insurance or get a job in a welding or fab shop or mobile welder. You could probably come up with projects by google searching.

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