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Need to hire a welder?

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Stick weld

07-20-2011 21:44:21
68.149.56.30



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I copied and pasted this add of someone looking for work. Think he'll get hired? He must not used spell check.

20 yrs+ exp. B-pressure welder looking for permanent job ASAP! I contain over 20 years career history in the welding indusrty, primariy in the Arc Welding descipiine. I'm highly experinenced with welding flanges to valves, repairing flange bodies, welding from start of process to completion and all processes done as per ASME code. I also contain supervisory experience.
Im looking for full time permanent job, pay must be no less than 38/hr.

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RodInNS

07-21-2011 14:11:14
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 Re: Need to hire a welder? in reply to Stick weld, 07-20-2011 21:44:21  
The grammar would suggest to me that it's more likely the nigerians have devised a new scam to get your personal information...
If nothing else it reads like someone from that part of the world who hasn't yet figured out the proper english sentence structure.

Rod



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bc

07-21-2011 15:28:04
71.158.213.157



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 Re: Need to hire a welder? in reply to RodInNS, 07-21-2011 14:11:14  
Yep, what Rod said. The guy would probably need a travel advance sent to him before he started.

His price is too cheap for most of the certified pipeliners who have their own truck and who basically subcontract and the same for any union pipeliners.



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Stick weld

07-21-2011 23:04:55
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 Re: Need to hire a welder? in reply to bc, 07-21-2011 15:28:04  
It's an actual post of a local guy looking for work. He doesn't have his own truck. Those guys make about $85/hr., even more on a pipeline job. A good B-Pressure shop welder could make $38/hr here but that's in the high end of the scale. Typical it's in the $32 to $34/hr range especially until you've proven yourself.



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pipe welder

07-22-2011 15:10:32
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 Re: Need to hire a welder? in reply to Stick weld, 07-21-2011 23:04:55  
Stick welder, are you a B-pressure welder in the Edmonton area? I was reading the kijiji postings for B-pressure welders in Edmonton and there are quite a few jobs there for over $30 an hour and there was a pipeline job for $40-$50 running a rig for someone depending on experience.



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RodInNS

07-22-2011 04:45:12
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 Re: Need to hire a welder? in reply to Stick weld, 07-21-2011 23:04:55  
Do you know the guy?



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Stick weld

07-22-2011 13:54:33
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 Re: Need to hire a welder? in reply to RodInNS, 07-22-2011 04:45:12  
No, I have no idea who it is. I saw it on Kijiji. I thought it was a little brash to be asking for that much money when you're not even working.



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RodInNS

07-23-2011 06:22:36
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 Re: Need to hire a welder? in reply to Stick weld, 07-22-2011 13:54:33  
So... it could be any brand of.... import.
The way that's written... is how most of those guys talk. Broken english. Mabey the guy is here a long time and is legit... and mabey not.

Rod



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NCWayne

07-21-2011 11:53:32
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 Re: Need to hire a welder? in reply to Stick weld, 07-20-2011 21:44:21  
Around here most welding jobs I've seen posted are looking for experienced guys that are 6G certified TIG welding pipe, etc.. Even with the qualifications, certifications, etc I've seen jobs ranging from $12 and hour to the $20-$25 an hour range. Looking for $38 an hour right off, in this economy, he's most likely gonna go hungry before anyone hires, or even interviews him.



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pipe welder

07-22-2011 14:56:33
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 Re: Need to hire a welder? in reply to NCWayne, 07-21-2011 11:53:32  
It would help to understand the area and field before making assumptions. Just do a kijiji/Edmonton search for B-pressure welder and you will see that there are plenty of pressure welding jobs in the Edmonton area for over $30 an hour. Considering that it is a highly unionised area and field where the welders make $36-$40plus an hour depending on sector why would people work for much less. Plus the unioun workers get a vacation premium on top of that of about another $3-$5 an hour. An Alberta B pressure ticket is a redseal trade. That means that it is an interprovencial ticket that requires a 3-5 year apprentiship. So you can't just go to the local hardware store buy a buzzbox and call yourself a welder. The better question is why should someone who spends the same time learning a trade as someone going to college/university degree not earn the same money?

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Stick weld

07-22-2011 17:57:00
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 Re: Need to hire a welder? in reply to pipe welder, 07-22-2011 14:56:33  
I have my B-pressure ticket but I'd have to do a test to renew it. All different pressure tickets have to be renewed every 2 years even if you've been doing it for 40 years. In order to work as welder in Alberta you have to be either a registered apprentice or a journeyman. You do not have to have your red seal ticket though. Most journeyman pass the red seal test and have the red seal ticket though. Red seal means interprovincial and is recognized across Canada. The red seal test is strictly theory but was 50 questions longer than the standard journeyman test when I took it in the 80's. I got 91% on the red seal test and 89% on the NAIT test. Some of the questions are very difficult.

Alberta has lots of non union pressure welders. Union rates are higher for field welders than shop welders. For a non union shop position $38/hr is in the higher end of the pay scale. If I was real desperate for work, I think I'd try to land the job first and then discuss the wage rather than demand an aggressive wage from the get go. Most pressure shops require you to do a job test(s)anyway before being hired. For a vesssel or piping shop it's usually a rolled MIG root/7018 fill and cap bend test and a 6G 2 inch pipe 6010 root/7018 fill and cap bend test. If this guy had a bunch of TIG tickets and found a shop that required them, might justify the minimum wages he's looking for. The bigger question is why isn't he steadily employed making this wage or better if he's that good?

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mnoliverguy

07-22-2011 20:40:26
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 Re: Need to hire a welder? in reply to Stick weld, 07-22-2011 17:57:00  
Hey Dave?

Is that not the question you have been asked many times here? I seem to remeber you crying about your job all the time.

Been looking at any bridges lately? Have a nice day. Mr perfect welder!!!!!!!!! your old budy from Mn.



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Alinark

07-23-2011 08:10:15
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 Re: Need to hire a welder? in reply to mnoliverguy, 07-22-2011 20:40:26  
super dave really stuck his foot in his mouth that time. al



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Dick L

07-21-2011 08:32:07
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 Re: Need to hire a welder? in reply to Stick weld, 07-20-2011 21:44:21  
Most likely wouldn't get hired here. I have a published wage scale for production workers to keep me out of hearing for being unfair. I pay a new skilled worker no less than what they have been earning and at the end of 30 days I either give them a raise or let them go if I am not getting a return on their labor. If an applicant is asking more than I can afford I do not interview them.



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mosinee dave

07-21-2011 05:32:18
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 Re: Need to hire a welder? in reply to Stick weld, 07-20-2011 21:44:21  
For some one begging for a job he is demanding on the wage.No wonder he is unemployed



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ScottP

07-20-2011 22:33:38
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 Re: Need to hire a welder? in reply to Inno, 07-20-2011 21:44:21  
Good luck with the job search Dave. I hope you find somthing soon. LOL



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