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Montgomery Wards Welder

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720Deere

10-27-2005 18:12:20




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My uncle picked up a Montgomery Wards electric welder for me at a sale this week. It is 295 amp AC with continuous duty rating. It looks as if it is brand new.

Has anybody had any experience with these units? It came with a booklet that appears to have some age on it, but no dates. I haven't had time to play around with it yet or even really check it out closely.

He gave $110 for the welder, junk helmet and about 15 lbs of various type rods about half of which look usable. I have not ever seen a buzzbox type welder that was continuous duty before. I am curious as to how good of a welder this really is. Any input?

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Jimmy King

10-28-2005 02:02:31




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 Re: Montgomery Wards Welder in reply to 720Deere, 10-27-2005 18:12:20  
I have a Wards 250 Amp AC DC. It is proably between 25 to 30 years old. My son is a pro. welder says it will lay bead with the best of them. If I remember right it is the same as a Century.



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Stan in Oly, WA

10-27-2005 22:48:22




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 Re: Montgomery Wards Welder in reply to 720Deere, 10-27-2005 18:12:20  
Hi, 720Deere

A young guy I know was given one by his grandfather about a year ago. He didn't have a place to use it so he left it with me and would come by to practice with it from time to time. He invited me to use it whenever I wanted. I got a few hours of practice in with it because I was interested in seeing how AC stick welding differed from DC.

I thought it was a good machine. I liked the high duty cycle. If by continuous duty you mean the gauge shows the 100% duty cycle to be pretty high, I don't think its that unusual. If I'm not mistaken, any transformer type stick welder has a duty cycle that increases as the amperage is reduced---it's the nature of that setup. Lincoln claims that their 225 amp buzzbox has a 20% duty cycle at all settings, but this is not true. They're just being excessively conservative.

The Montgomery Ward welder has one feature that I didn't understand until I opened up the box to clean it. There's a crank on it (I can't remember where it is) that you loosen to slide the amperage lever to the setting you want, then tighten it up again. The crank keeps the shunt from slipping as you use the welder so your setting doesn't change. Welders with infinite adjustment---those you adjust with a lever or crank---are subject to slipping during use. Those with fixed settings, like the Lincoln buzzbox, won't slip, but can't be fine tuned. I thought the MW welder's solution to this problem was pretty clever.

The welder I had here also had two electrode outlets. One was the low range, the other was the high range but also said 6013 electrodes only. I happened to have a a lot of 6013 rod, so I used it to test the high range. Thinking about it later, though, I decided it was mainly nonsense. The machine puts out a certain amount of current, period. There's no feedback about what you choose to put in the electrode holder.

I think you got a really good AC welder.

All the best, Stan

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Pappy

10-27-2005 21:57:59




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 Re: Montgomery Wards Welder in reply to 720Deere, 10-27-2005 18:12:20  
I have one of those welders. 295 amp with a high and low connections. It says "continuous amperage control" on the front. Model 110-083. I've had it about 25 years. It really burns!! No Problems!



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drw

10-27-2005 20:48:14




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 Re: Montgomery Wards Welder in reply to 720Deere, 10-27-2005 18:12:20  
Do you have a model number? Anything begining with 110-xxx (located on a small white tag on the upper right hand corner on the rear of the unit) or in very small print on the front face of the unit. Another model scheme is similar to 5954, 5956, 5958, etc. Either one indicates your welder was made by Century Mfg., now Lincoln Electric. If you need a manual call 866.236.0044, x3; they should be able to get you fixed up.

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old

10-27-2005 19:22:08




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 Re: Montgomery Wards Welder in reply to 720Deere, 10-27-2005 18:12:20  
Well other then them being out of business, they are pretty good welders. I've used one a few times and it did very well. Other then that I can't say, but for that price if it works you/he didn't go wrong



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