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Lincoln AC-180s Stick Welder Pro/Con

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Greg

12-01-2000 13:26:11
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I was using a friends newer Lincoln AC225s for the past year and 1/2 and in the mean time looking to buy something myself. I new that if I bought a new machine it was going to be AC/DC but did not want to part with the $400.00.

Last week my aunt gave me a Lincoln 180s Stick welder (model 4248) that my grandpa bought many moons ago. I know it is at a minimum 30 years old and most likely double that. The unit needed all new cables and a switch. It had not even been used for at least 15 years. Fortunately I work for an electrical supply distributor and was able to buy almost everything at cost which was still $ 75.00. (New 25ft #4 electrode cables, 10 ft power cord and plug, new power switch, electode holder and ground clamp.) By the way if you ever need a power switch don't pay $60+ dollars from Lincoln - a heavy duty motor switch does the job at about 1/2 the cost.

Did quite a bit of welding last night and it seems to work quite well. Maybe because it is mine and not borrowed, but it almost seems like it has a better arc quality than the newer AC225s. Strange to turn this unit on because it makes almost no noise as there is no fan, it just sits there and buzzes. It does seem just a little bit harder to establish an arc but once the rod has been started it works great.

Any way, I was wondering if anyone knows anything about these old pups that were obviously replaced by the 225 series? Was $ 75.00 too much to put into it? How long do the old transformers last?

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bbott

12-02-2000 19:16:20
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 Re: Lincoln AC-180s Stick Welder Pro/Con in reply to Greg, 12-01-2000 13:26:11  
I've got one too.. I think it hast to be at least 40 years old. Got it when my Uncle purchased a new Linclon in the mid 60's and the 180 was a old machine then.

I cleaned it up, blew it out out, it's still working. No moving parts, nothing to really wear out unless the insulation on the windings breaks down.

When my uncle passed away, I ended up with the newer machine too... I think the old one welds better ! Someday I'm gonna break down and get a DC rig though.

-- bb

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micheal

12-02-2000 18:58:08
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 Re: Lincoln AC-180s Stick Welder Pro/Con in reply to Greg, 12-01-2000 13:26:11  
sounds like you got your self a good deal. my fatherinlaw had an old craftsmen laying outside his shop that he gave to me a few years ago. I put new cables etc. on it. It worked for a while, then one of the transformers blew out. I now have my dad's (grandfather's before that) old Forney 180 amp ac box. It seems to work great. be happy you got one for what you did. Should give you years more of service. Keep it out of the rain though. think thats what happened to the old craftsmen that blew up. got wet i'm sure.

micheal

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Ray

12-01-2000 18:36:34
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 Re: Lincoln AC-180s Stick Welder Pro/Con in reply to Greg, 12-01-2000 13:26:11  
Father-in-law has a Century ac/dc with the high frequency arc starter, and an old Lincoln 180. Have used both, and frankly I prefer the old Lincoln! Does a better job for me - Be happy!



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Francis Z Beringer

12-01-2000 18:30:12
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 Re: Lincoln AC-180s Stick Welder Pro/Con in reply to Greg, 12-01-2000 13:26:11  
Those old Lincoln Welders use all copper windings, whereas the later ones use aluminum. The copper ones just seem to work alot better. You made a very good buy.



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Norm

12-01-2000 15:18:02
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 Re: Lincoln AC-180s Stick Welder Pro/Con in reply to Greg, 12-01-2000 13:26:11  
You did good. Have fun with it.



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T_Bone

12-01-2000 17:07:04
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 Re: Re: Lincoln AC-180s Stick Welder Pro/Con in reply to Norm, 12-01-2000 15:18:02  
I'll give you $200 and I'll even come pick it up:)

T_Bone



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T.J.

12-01-2000 20:17:33
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 Re: Re: Re: Lincoln AC-180s Stick Welder Pro/Con in reply to T_Bone, 12-01-2000 17:07:04  

about 12 years ago Ibought lincoln 180 at sale for $65.00 it to needed cables a stinger,when putting the new cables on there was a mfg. date 1957 on the inside cover. the old cables were made of fine strand alum.and were orignal. It looked well used when I got it.And I have burnt well over 200# of rods and it keeps on going going, going



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David F.

12-05-2000 11:51:16
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Lincoln AC-180s Stick Welder Pro/Con in reply to T.J., 12-01-2000 20:17:33  
In past years the electrical service in rural areas in the country were inadquate, So welder mfgs. Such as Lincoln, P&H, Westinghouse, Fortney made 180 amp. limted input welders to work on rual powerlines, as electrical services inproved mfgs.inproved their welding machines, as for having hard arc, start due to low open circuit voltage which is normal for 180amp welders where as the 225amp have a higher open circuit voltage which make it easier to strike a arc. for the money you did'nt get hurt the older machines have a copper transformer the newer ones have aluminin thats probably why they have a cooling fanto keep the transformer cool. ( you got a good deal)

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