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McCulloch Pro Mac 610 Problem

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Paul

10-24-2003 06:00:42




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Hi Guys

I recently picked up a few chainsaws at a local auction two of which a McCulloch saws.

I am having a bit of a problem with the old Pro Mac 610. When I first got it home I could get the thing to run any more than a few seconds so I pulled off the air filter and noticed that the fuel line was all hard and brital and in one spot was leaking fuel everywere so I replaced it and sure enough it start on the the third pull.

It seems to run like a charm, idols perfectly in fact it idols somther than any of my other saws!!
My problem is as soon as I try and cut a piece of timber it just dies. At first I thought it might have been a clutch problem but it does not sound like it is slipping.
It sounds like the thing labours when it is under load like someone is grabbing hold of the chain (not that you would of coarse :o)

I don't have a guage to check the compression on it but it doesn't feel to bad when you try and start it.

I pulled the muffler off to check inside the port for any piston scoring but it looks quite good.


If it needed a new piston ring in it would this be a sympton that would show that

Could any Pro Mac users shed any light??


Regards,


Paul

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Ken Wolkerstorfer

02-22-2005 16:41:15




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 Re: McCulloch Pro Mac 610 Problem in reply to Paul, 10-24-2003 06:00:42  
Help Please. Does anyone have an easy way or a special trick to reinstall the brake lever spring on the Pro Mac 610? I've rebuilt the unit but can't seem to get this spring reinstalled. I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong. I can't believe that it should be this difficult. Thanks for any advice you can offer.



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Tim

11-20-2003 09:12:44




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 Re: McCulloch Pro Mac 610 Problem in reply to Paul, 10-24-2003 06:00:42  
I have a 610 that had a problem simular to yours. It was the most pronouced when the saw was cutting on the side. Adjusting the jets helped for a while, but ultimatly the saw just didn't have any power. It would idle fine and rev ok-but sounded off. I took the saw in and they rebuilt the carb. The diaphram was shot and couldn't supply the necessary fuel.



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jon

11-07-2003 17:46:58




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 Re: McCulloch Pro Mac 610 Problem in reply to Paul, 10-24-2003 06:00:42  
This may not be the problem, but i had a stihl that would bog down as soon as you put it in the cut, I rebuilt the carb, and nothing. I finally got to looking, and the spur sprocket was shot. It was worn so bad that when any load was put on the chain the speocket didnt have any leverage,(for lack of a better term). The chain was trying to wrap around to small of a circle.I replaced the sprocket and it ran and cut like new.

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treeboy

10-27-2003 16:29:34




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 Re: McCulloch Pro Mac 610 Problem in reply to Paul, 10-24-2003 06:00:42  
so when ya had the muffler off how did the exhaust ports look, not 1/2 pluged up i hope.. also i would like to know if youturn your high jet in counting the turns, how many : then turn the low in , how manyturns(do not over tightin) and back them out where they were... are they anywhere close to the same settings , like 1 & 1/2 turns out?? I'm thinking the idle screw is keeping the saw idleing and not the low jet, then the low jet is not letting the saw rev up properly

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Paul

10-27-2003 16:37:46




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 Re: Re: McCulloch Pro Mac 610 Problem in reply to treeboy, 10-27-2003 16:29:34  
As I recall the Hi Jet was about 1 and 1/4 turns and the lows was about 1 and 1/2 but I did not play with the low one that much I pretty much put it back where it was from when I cleaned the Carby out.

I will try it this evening and let you know.

Thanks again,

Paul



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Paul

10-26-2003 22:09:04




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 Re: McCulloch Pro Mac 610 Problem in reply to Paul, 10-24-2003 06:00:42  
Thanks for the replies guys!! OK I have made a few adjustments to the Mixture screws and although that helped a little it still seems to be bogging down alot.

I took off the muffler and gave that a good clean out but it really wasn't all that bad I thought.

I also took the Carb off and opened it up, I didnt strip the whole thing down but I opened up either side of it and actually found it had a few remnants of the old Fuel Line so I cleaned all that out. Stuck it all back together and once again it seemed a little bit better but still does not seem to run all that hard when cutting.

The Chain could probably do with a sharpen but it's not all that bad, I have got a little 48cc homelite that seems to go harder than the Pro Mac so there must be something I am missing.

There is one thing that I did not do when I cleaned out the carby, there was a small brass wire filter with a Steal ring holding it in place on the diaphragm side which I couldn't seem to get off. I was a little hesitant to put pressure on the thing in case I lost/broke it but one would assume if it was dirty it would have been on the outer side of it not inside correct??

One thing I did not mention in my first post is that once you first get it started if you try and hit the throttle it will bog down real bad and if you give it to much it will just stall. If you wait a minute or so till it warms up it is ok after that.

I am really not sure what to do next, any idea's would be a great help!!

Thanks again,

Paul

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Slofr8

10-25-2003 08:11:02




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 Re: McCulloch Pro Mac 610 Problem in reply to Paul, 10-24-2003 06:00:42  
Paul,
one thing you might check is the fuel tank vent. If the saw was sitting for a while it could be gummed up. The saw will idle a long while but stall when you try to cut. I had this happen recently and just drilled a small hole in the vent to get by for a while.
Do us a favor and post back with what you find.
Dan.



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Paul

10-24-2003 16:58:29




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 Re: McCulloch Pro Mac 610 Problem in reply to Paul, 10-24-2003 06:00:42  
Hi Guys

Thanks for replying!!

I will have a bit of a play with the mixture settings today and see what happens..

Just as a matter of interest was is the recommended fuel mixture for these old Macs??

Is it 40:1???


The Fuel line was defantely shot in fact when I took the top cover off the carb there was a peice of it sitting on the throttle valve. So it may just need a cleanout.


Looks like a day of working on saws, I have to put a new Piston and Ring Set in the Jonsered as well.

The mrs's will be happy :o)

Will let you know how I go..


Regards,


Paul

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Bob M

10-24-2003 17:17:03




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 Re: Re: McCulloch Pro Mac 610 Problem in reply to Paul, 10-24-2003 16:58:29  
40:1 is recommended. However I run mostly 50:1 thru mine because that's what the outboard uses and I've always got a 6 gallon tank mixed up. The Mac seems to like it just fine, and it smokes a bit less on 50:1.



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Mac

10-24-2003 11:27:19




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 Re: McCulloch Pro Mac 610 Problem in reply to Paul, 10-24-2003 06:00:42  
I got an old Mac, dont even know the model cause parts are hard to get anyhow. My fuel lines turned to jell or what looked like cooked spaghetti. I replaced them, saw developed a problem with High speed throttle. Removed and cleaned the carb and it run OK after that. Maybe a piece of the old line had gotten into the carb. Watch that Wee return spring under the needle arm, it can hide from you.

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Bob M

10-24-2003 07:50:48




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 Re: McCulloch Pro Mac 610 Problem in reply to Paul, 10-24-2003 06:00:42  
Paul - I've owned a Mac 610 for many years. Problem's likely a lean mixture at speed. Some suggestions:

1 - Try opening the high speed mixture adjustment ¼ turn at a time - test operation after after each adjustment.

2 - If after about 1-1/2 to 2 turns out on the high speed screw it still isn't right, fish the fuel filter out of the tank and see if it's plugged. Clean or replace if needed.

3 - If that doesn't do it, the carb probably needs to be torn down, cleaned and it's two gaskets replaced.

Also - when you had the muffler off, did you thoroughly clean it out? Carbon buildup inside the muffler and on the spark arrestor screen can cause the problem you are experiencing.

Note: If the piston ring was worn or the crankcase leaking, the saw would be hard to start and it would idle poorly.

Good luck!

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hippie_1620

04-14-2005 18:00:44




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 Re: Re: McCulloch Pro Mac 610 Problem in reply to Bob M, 10-24-2003 07:50:48  
Sorry for bumping an old post. But I just a 610 given, so far, to me. Got it running but that"s as far as I have gotten. But it"s doing the same thing. So Paul did you get yours up and running? If so what was it? To everyone else thanks for the posts even if they weren"t meant for me I"ll give all the ideas a shot I got some trees that gotta go.



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