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How to refill blue rhino gas valves?

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chris mf35

04-12-2003 12:18:59
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needed a tank of propne after refill station closed so i exchanged for a blue rhino tank. took tank to local propane station today and they said they cannot refill these valves (won't take gas) that i would have to retun to blue rhino. they are losing a lot of bussiness to this ripoff can anyone tell me how they can refill with this valve on my tank?




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chris mf35

04-15-2003 16:19:24
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 Re: how to refill blue rhino gas valves? in reply to chris mf35, 04-12-2003 12:18:59  
this is the new trisafe 2 valve. that some blue rhino refillers are using. rhino is suppling them. the side of the label state that they cannot be refilled except by them. they can be identifed by a triangle indented on the side.



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Bill

04-15-2003 08:10:31
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 Re: how to refill blue rhino gas valves? in reply to chris mf35, 04-12-2003 12:18:59  
Why not trade it at a different supplier? I trade mine at Menards and there were quite a few empty Blue Rhino's there, and I don't think there's even a supplier for them in the area. The one's I've been getting can be filled about anywhere.



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GK

04-14-2003 05:35:17
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 Re: how to refill blue rhino gas valves? in reply to chris mf35, 04-12-2003 12:18:59  
The local LP dealer says the rhino tanks have a magnetic valve in them that has to be activated before filling.



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John - NY

04-13-2003 18:16:21
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 Re: how to refill blue rhino gas valves? in reply to chris mf35, 04-12-2003 12:18:59  
I refill LP gas bottles and there should be no problem filling those new tanks. The filling nozzle is the same as it used to be. There are threads on the inside of the valve on the tank besides the coarse threads on the outside. Take the tank somewhere else to get it filled!



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David - OR

04-12-2003 17:44:22
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 Re: how to refill blue rhino gas valves? in reply to chris mf35, 04-12-2003 12:18:59  
I always wondered why Blue Rhino was so willing to take "any cylinder" in exchange. For every cylinder they can take off the market, that's one less refillable cylinder competing with them and one more of their proprietary "exchange only" cylinders out there.

The cylinders are known to be "proprietary" the refill guy is on the level about being unable to put gas in it. See, for example,

http://www.ccsolidwaste.org/PDF/propane.PDF


I wonder if the founders of Blue Rhino had some sort of "in" with the NFPA -- resulting in the 2002 adoption of the "overfill prevention valve" regulation, and the immediate obsolescence of millions of cylinders. This has shaken up the propane cylinder industry enough to allow them to move in with their "lock them in" scheme before people realized what was happening. I know I almost got caught by this myself when my old cylinder got hit by the OPD rule.

You have the following options:

1) Keep exchanging the cylinder and enjoy the "convenience" but pay 2 to 3x the price.

2) Revalve the cylinder with a normal valve. This takes at least a tank wrench and the valves are probably not cheap in unit quantities.

3) De-valve the cylinder, and use it for refilling tires or a fishing float or whatever.

4) Paint Billy Prim's face on the cylinder, shoot a hole between the eyes, and mail it back to Blue Rhino. At least this will take the thing out of circulation. Buy a normal refillable cylinder for $18.00 or so at Home Depot.

5) Keep the empty Blue Rhino at the back of the garage and exchange it at the grocery store only when you need propane at 8:00 on a Sunday or whatever.

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Bus Driver

04-14-2003 18:25:56
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 Re: Re: how to refill blue rhino gas valves? in reply to David - OR, 04-12-2003 17:44:22  
I happened to drive by (without stopping) their corporate headquarters today. David has a good suggestion. Buy another non-Blue Rhino tank and use it at your favorite filling station. Use the BR tank you now have if more gas needed in emergency. Your tank is a 20#, right? Blue Rhino puts only 17# in them. Neat, huh?



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