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How to put a ceiling in pole barn?

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Mike

12-15-2002 03:15:09




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This barn is 24'w by 40'l with trusses 8' apart. Would like to get a ceiling up (11'high) and get some insulation since it has gable end vents and vented cupola. How do you frame it and what type of ceiling material and insulation advice? Thanks in advance. Mike




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John Humphrey Morocco IN.

12-16-2002 17:11:16




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 Re: How to put a ceiling in pole barn? in reply to Mike, 12-15-2002 03:15:09  
Have done two buildings this way (32X48 & 30X30);
Staple 6mil poly to bottom of truses, and then apply metal siding to that. Blow 15 to 16 inches of insulation on top. These buildings heat and cool for next to no money.



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Richard

12-16-2002 05:52:39




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 Re: How to put a ceiling in pole barn? in reply to Mike, 12-15-2002 03:15:09  
Address for aluminum material mentioned above is

Enviromental Safe Products
313 West Golden Lane
New Oxford, PA 17350



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Rod MI

12-15-2002 17:49:36




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 Re: How to put a ceiling in pole barn? in reply to Mike, 12-15-2002 03:15:09  
Mike I ripped sum plywood in to stripes and nailed it the rafters every 12 inches sow I had a 2 or 3 inch lip to hang sum 4X8 foam board 2inch thick on it and just sat the Foam on it and it works grate if you have any large gaps just use sum plastic to cover that aria



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Scott Green

12-16-2002 04:34:01




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 Re: Re: How to put a ceiling in pole barn? in reply to Rod MI , 12-15-2002 17:49:36  
Rod , If I had to buy the materials , I think you have the best idea yet. 2" thick foam board should do just fine , I would think. Scott



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Rod MI

12-16-2002 09:23:47




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 Re: Re: Re: How to put a ceiling in pole barn? in reply to Scott Green, 12-16-2002 04:34:01  
Scott it dues work grate and I'm going to do it in my other barn but the credit must go to my dad on this one the only bad thing is you mite wont to use the blue board it is note as messy when you have to cut it Rod MI



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Rod MI

12-15-2002 18:15:50




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 Re: Re: How to put a ceiling in pole barn? in reply to Rod MI , 12-15-2002 17:49:36  
Here is a bad picture of the sealing Rod MI



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Richard

12-15-2002 17:42:18




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 Re: How to put a ceiling in pole barn? in reply to Mike, 12-15-2002 03:15:09  
I am planning to use the material which has aluminum foil on each side of a thin insulating material which is sold by a company in PA. It can be glued or stapled to ceiling joists and weighs very little and has good insulating quality. I will find the address and post it tomorrow.
It is also fire resistant.
Richard



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JMS/MN

12-15-2002 09:32:35




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 Re: How to put a ceiling in pole barn? in reply to Mike, 12-15-2002 03:15:09  
Use joist hangers to put 2x4s between your trusses. My 2x4s are four feet apart between trusses spaced eight feet apart. Poly underneath, then used white steel for a ceiling. Two custom cut panels span 48 feet. Just put 15 inches blown cellulose insulation on top a week ago, gives an R50 rating. Sidewalls are 2x6 studs filling in between poles, with 6 inch fiberglass insulation.



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Dave Wis

12-15-2002 15:41:37




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 Re: Re: How to put a ceiling in pole barn? in reply to JMS/MN, 12-15-2002 09:32:35  
You may want to be sure the trusses are built to handle a ceiling load. If not, an extra truss in between your existing ones will probably take care of that. There is a steel liner panel, which looks like the exterior steel but is thinner, therefore lighter. It will easily span 4'. However you do it, make sure the roof/ceiling system will handle the total load, both roof and ceiling (they are rated separate), a collapsed roof makes an awful mess of itself and anything under it.

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Scott Green

12-15-2002 06:55:53




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 Re: How to put a ceiling in pole barn? in reply to Mike, 12-15-2002 03:15:09  
This is something no one thinks about when building a pole barn. "Putting up a ceiling". I know! I did it myself. Put my trusses 5' apart. Afterwards I thought about putting a ceiling in. That's when it hit me. I should have put the trusses 4' apart. Then I would be able to use conventional size building material. I put a drop ceiling in mine , useing 3" insulated ceiling tiles. I went with drop ceiling because of weight. And also because it was free. I got my ceiling panels from a Topps grocery store , which was being remodeled. If I were you , I would put one more truss inbetween the others. Then use drop ceiling panels as I did. It worked out good for me. With one more truss inbetween your existing ones , you should be great. I had to be a little more creative with 5' between my trusses. Here is what you do: Put the "L" chanel all around the perimeter of the building , and also on each side of each truss. Put your "T" bars inbetween your trusses. Drop your panels in. My "T" bars are not even fastened. They just set on the "L" chanel. Everything is pushed tight togather. NOTE: if you use thin ceiling panels , you might also want to add some insulation batts over the top of them. The wind may lift the panels out other wise. I have a couple that try to lift on a windy day , but can't.

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