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AntiqueTom · Mar 1, 2023

am i correct to assume the flywheel turns clockwise as viewed from radiator,,also is the # 1 cylinder closest to the flywheel.?
cannot seem to get # 1 on top with new injector pump lined up.

wore out · Mar 1, 2023

(quoted from post at 09:42:23 03/01/23) am i correct to assume the flywheel turns clockwise as viewed from radiator,,also is the # 1 cylinder closest to the flywheel.?
cannot seem to get # 1 on top with new injector pump lined up.

Yes, engine turns clockwise when viewed from the front.

And #1 cylinder is at the FRONT, closest to the radiator.

Same as 'most all ''common'' engines.

the tractor vet · Mar 1, 2023

Well if the T'/A is good then she will only turn one way. And yes ya line up the timing pointer on the right side of the bell housing with the flywheel . NOW DEPENDING ON WHAT INJECTION PUMP you have as there are TWO styles of injection pumps used on and 806 the timing mark you line up on is different and you set the flywheel timing mark at the correct advance and have the timing mark on the pump lined up even and install. Since i have no idea what pump your playen with here . Now #1 is the ft. cylinder and if you have been turning the engine then the only true way to find when #1 is at TDC is to pull the valve cover to see when both valve are close d on #1 as you could be at TDC on #6 . On the ROOSAMSTER ya want 8 degrees BTDC And for the R D pumped tractors ya want the flywheel set at 50 Degrees BTDC.

used red MN · Mar 1, 2023

You can find when number one ..the front cylinder.. is coming up to TDC by removing the glow plug. Get a socket to fit on the front crankshaft pulley nut. You will need a helper to either turn the engine or hold his finger on the glow plug hole. When it starts pushing air out keep turning it slowly about a little under an half turn until your TDC or zero mark lines up with the pointer. The glow plug is the silver hex thing with a wire plugged on it it screws out. It is on the injector; you want the front one closest to the radiator. The injector is the part that bolts to the head at and angle with two bolts. The line from the injector pump screws on to it, there are 6 one for each cylinder.

the tractor vet · Mar 1, 2023

Ah learn your engines , the D361 and D407's DON'T HAVE GLOW PLUGS , yes you can PULL and injector BUT sometimes you might make more problems for yourself in doing so and yes pulling the valve cover on a D 361 in and 806 is a PITA it is also a vary good time to do A VALVE adjustment as it more then likely needs it. You must think i have never worked on these or own one . welp i i have rebuilt somewhere around 35-40 of them over the last what 35 years starting with the first rag i bought for chump change and had every nut and bolt out of it to make it a working tractor. Gee's For well over now 30 years this is how i made a living working on them for people. and worked on them enough i can tell you what tools ya need to do the flippen job and oh wait it gets better i also have ALL the I H farm service tools just like the dealers have .

used red MN · Mar 2, 2023

To AntiqueTom, sorry I gave you incorrect information your tractors engine does not have glow plugs.
To the Tractor Vet, make sure you are in a spot that is not too tight so you can get out of there when you head starts swelling up after you hear this. You are CORRECT, I should have known that about that engine before I gave out bad information. But at least I gave you a reason to do some rambling and turn that light on that always shines
just a little brighter on you than anybody else when the story is over. Glad I could help out. How about the front push rod cover? Is that hard to get to? I know it does not let him check the valve clearances, but it would let him see what he need to.

AntiqueTom · Mar 2, 2023

Thanks guys, 8 deg. was correct. after i started looking at #1 cyl. instead of #6,,ha ha..installed newly rebuilt injector pump, new injectors, all lines, oil and air filters. took fuel tank off today for a cleaning..getting closer to start-up,,thanks

used red MN · Mar 2, 2023

Well if you are that far in the valve clearances need set if you have not already. And you should check them with the engine warmed up.

the tractor vet · Mar 3, 2023

Like i said before you don't work on them I do for the past 30 plus year and know every inch on I H tractors from the letter series up to the 86 series . No my head does not swell i give straight forward advice from knowledge YOU do not have a working knowledge , you look at the parts book on line and give LINKS . Where as i can tell you what TOOLS ya need for the job . Yes there are some things that come up that i have never run into but not to often . I don't know a lot about utility as we don't have a bunch of them in my area and i never bought any for resale . Only had one friend that had two 584's and the only problem with them was the brakes . So for them that have been thru my shop a couple 350's a 504 And that was it . I also have been on here far longer then you have tryen my best to help . Even made a couple road trips to lend a hand for ones with in driving distance . So let me know when you know as much as i do .

Stuart · Mar 3, 2023

You do have a lot of knowledge. You also have an ego the size of Texas that is made out of fragile glass. After many years of reading your posts about horsepower output and what your friends tractor will pull, I ga figured out that youre half full of it. We have had a dyno on the farm for 25 years. I know a M, super M, 450 through 1466 will put out for numbers. You also seem to be the only one with family members having problems with John Deere hydraulics exploding. My Dad worked on IH tractors his entire life, probably had more knowledge than you do, but he could get his ego through a keyhole

used red MN · Mar 3, 2023

Yep, Stuart some just cannot live without turning that light on. Yes, he is knowledgeable and has likely helped a lot of people out over his years. But he also has spread a lot of manure along the way, which in it self is not bad, it is just not the road I go down. I suppose if he sees this he will say I am spreading manure by giving an improper response which. is true to a degree. People are all different, some are humble and others are not. I should probably bow out and let him run his course when these things pop up, just let him poke another feather in his hat.

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