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Topic: Looking for Square Bolts! Please Help
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Oliver662011

03-04-2013 16:39:27
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I am restoring a JD Model 52 two bottom plow on steel. Every single bolt is trashed and nearly rotted in half. The person I am restoring it for requested we replace with more Square head bolts. I contacted Fastenal however grade 5 5/8" 4inch in length are nearly 16 bucks each, through fastenal I am looking at almost 700 dollars for just bolts! No nuts or washers. :evil: I am wondering if anyone has other ideas on where I can get a good square bolts ranging in length mainly 1/2 or 5/8 in diameter. Or if they have a bunch they are willing to sell. If I do have to buy them at that price it will break my budget, also I wanted grade 8 but they are 30 bucks a piece. Do you think grade 5 will be good enough for the frame bolts and stuff if I do have to resort to buying them? Thanks for all your help.

Mike

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Bob

03-08-2013 20:41:20
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 Re: Looking for Square Bolts! Please Help in reply to Oliver662011, 03-04-2013 16:39:27  
You never thought of the Deere dealer, did you?
5/8" X 4 square head bolts are readily available there for about $3.37 each, depending upon each dealer"s price! They are even Grade 8! If you go to jdparts.com and search "By Part Specifications" they have quite a variety of square-head bolts still available.If you look in the Parts Catalog (updated in "63) for the plow, they show hex fasteners.


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Oliver662011

03-05-2013 15:11:32
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 Re: Looking for Square Bolts! Please Help in reply to Oliver662011, 03-04-2013 16:39:27  
Thanks for all the help guys, I either probably going with Norm, or Blacksmith Bolt, still waiting for a price call back from Norm.

Thanks again,

Mike



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55 50 Ron

03-05-2013 14:39:30
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 Re: Looking for Square Bolts! Please Help in reply to Oliver662011, 03-04-2013 16:39:27  
McMaster Carr lists 60,000 tensile strength bolts as Grade A. That must be a change as 60,000 used to be the Grade 2 spec.

That should sure be enough for your plow bolts.



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Dick L

03-05-2013 13:38:25
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 Re: Looking for Square Bolts! Please Help in reply to Oliver662011, 03-04-2013 16:39:27  
Try Production Tool .

Several years back I bought several boxes of square head bolts and nuts. They didn't have them cataloged at the time but my sales person ordered them for me. I had to take full boxes because they wouldn't stock them at the time anyway. I still have some of the smaller bolts but the larger bolts had fewer in a box and I didn't get a lot more than I needed for what I was doing.
They were a little more expensive but not all that much or I wouldn't have popped for them.

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Dick L

03-05-2013 13:48:22
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 Re: Looking for Square Bolts! Please Help in reply to Dick L, 03-05-2013 13:38:25  
It doesn't look like Production took has bolts on line.



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Stephen Newell

03-05-2013 05:09:46
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 Re: Looking for Square Bolts! Please Help in reply to Oliver662011, 03-04-2013 16:39:27  
You might have to tell the client that there would be an additional charge for square head bolts and explain why. They will have a different appearance anyway as the heads will be physically thinner.



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nys

03-05-2013 02:15:04
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 Re: Looking for Square Bolts! Please Help in reply to Oliver662011, 03-04-2013 16:39:27  
Try Blacksmithbolt.com



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Graham from New Zealand

03-05-2013 03:32:34
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 Re: Looking for Square Bolts! Please Help in reply to nys, 03-05-2013 02:15:04  
Do you mean plough bolts? Try a carriage bolt through the hole and heat the head red hot and hammer into the counter sink



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AG in IN

03-04-2013 19:43:08
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 Re: Looking for Square Bolts! Please Help in reply to Oliver662011, 03-04-2013 16:39:27  
Maybe this guy can help:

Norm Jackson

(317)-431-4803

He always has square-headed hardware at IH tractor shows.

AG



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Oliver662011

03-04-2013 19:33:09
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 Re: Looking for Square Bolts! Please Help in reply to old, 03-04-2013 16:39:27  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

In heavy yellow clay does it matter? It isn't mine but I figure he will probably do one or two acres, but its like I said HEAVY. It would help my budget if I used twos but I want to be sure it wont rip apart. Thanks for all your help guys.



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fixerupper

03-05-2013 13:01:34
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 Re: Looking for Square Bolts! Please Help in reply to Oliver662011, 03-04-2013 19:33:09  
Did they even have grade 5
back in the day? I'll betcha
the factory bolts are 2's.
Jim



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Nebraska Kirk

03-04-2013 19:17:56
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 Re: Looking for Square Bolts! Please Help in reply to Oliver662011, 03-04-2013 16:39:27  
Grade 5 is overkill for a plow that will get very little use. Grade 2 will work just fine.



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patsdeere

03-04-2013 18:02:08
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 Re: Looking for Square Bolts! Please Help in reply to Oliver662011, 03-04-2013 16:39:27  
Have you tried mcmaster carr? They have 1/2"x5" for 6.90. Granted they are only grade 5, but it says they are min tensile of 120K psi.

Also look for a fastener store. I have one in my area that I can get 2 of this and 4 of that.



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hintocw

03-28-2013 09:41:49
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 Re: Looking for Square Bolts! Please Help in reply to patsdeere, 03-04-2013 18:02:08  
I'm able to obtain all the square head fasteners (bolts) at the local Lowes store (can probably find the same at the Home Depot).



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