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Tractor Pulling Discussion Forum

That was a 1st.

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mmfan55

03-11-2018 14:42:23




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Younger son and I attended a pull yesterday. Did not know until later in the day that EVERY CLASS was paying winner only. I have seen "jackpot " classes done winner take all but never every class offered. Handbill advertised 50% payback per class. I assumed they would pay 3 or more spots: depending on number of entries. we had pulled one of the tractors 2 of the 8 classes we entered before finding out the pay schedule. We dropped the other 6 classes, loaded up and came home. What are others opinions on no one but the class winner receiving prize money? And many of the classes with 15 plus entries. Just curious if I am alone in my opinion.

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PretendFarmer

04-04-2018 08:30:11




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
Nope, I don't go to win. Doesn't mean I don't try.
I go to have fun and sometimes I win.



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D beatty

04-04-2018 08:50:05




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to PretendFarmer, 04-04-2018 08:30:11  
Iam the same way. I go to have some fun and be with a bunch of guys that like to play around with tractors.



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showcrop

04-04-2018 07:00:24




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
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Nothing wrong with 2nd or third. Long term it is much better to be consistent high placing than always winning.



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JimEvans

04-03-2018 17:55:15




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
2nd place is first loser. Sounds like you weren't there to win, only place.



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mmfan55

04-04-2018 08:28:07




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to JimEvans, 04-03-2018 17:55:15  
Jim: first time out with a new ride; pulling with the folks that win or place at the large venue multiple day events; yes, I will be happy to be in the top 3 or 4. I have been fortunate enough to out pull all of these guys at one time or another. Have even won a class on rare occasion. But to win against all these folks is a HUGE accomplishment. These are some of the best in the Midwest. As stated before: having a 15to 20% chance of prize money beats 5%. As another stated: consistent has its merits. I won a points championship years ago without winning a class all year. I stand by my belief that ONLY paying 1 place is counterproductive.

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Traditional Farmer

03-22-2018 06:30:13




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
Well as the old saying goes "If you ain't the lead dog the scenery never changes".(LOL)



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oros35

03-15-2018 12:13:31




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
For our yearly show, we have a $10 hook fee, all for fun and a ribbon. And still don't make enough money to pay for the sled rental. We still have plenty of hooks to fill an evening. No way we could go for a $6 hook fee or payouts. Guess sleds are expensive around here. Club membership covers the insurance and grounds rental. The show is dying a slow death bleeding a bit every year and not growing.

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welding man

03-15-2018 16:54:12




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to oros35, 03-15-2018 12:13:31  
We own our own Sled,9600 Ford pull back tractor-Scales-roller and equipment trailer-all paid for and money in the bank and the 6 dollar hook fee and good sponsors have paid for it all. We are not growing but we are holding our own. We put on 6 pulls a year and have for many years.



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PretendFarmer

03-15-2018 07:44:14




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
I'd rather there be no payback at all and only pay $8 hook fees instead of $20 hook fees.



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welding man

03-15-2018 10:15:02




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to PretendFarmer, 03-15-2018 07:44:14  
Pretend Farmer, I wish you could pull with our club. No Payback-BIG trophies and a 6 dollar hook fee. We sell sponsorship's to cover the cost of the trophies and we pull for the fun of it. We don't fight or argue and we all leave the pull as friends.



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DoubleO7

03-14-2018 19:00:20




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
If they paid 50% of the gross class entry to the class winner, I do not think they misled anyone.



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mmfan55

03-14-2018 19:34:57




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to DoubleO7, 03-14-2018 19:00:20  
Not saying they misled. They are the only pull I have attended in my 30 years of pulling that ONLY paid 1st. Just very outside "normal " for our area. Paying 1 place with 20 entries means a 5% chance of getting money. Paying 4 spots increases those odds to 20%. Just my opinion that the more people that get a little money the more that will attend. If you have only a few tractors that win money, why would or should anyone else bother to come. JMO

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tlock0331

03-13-2018 19:26:06




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
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are ya looking for a 3rd cause i would be in!



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Moresmoke

03-13-2018 15:28:45




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
I don't go to pulls for the money. I just go to make the JD owners mad.

Honestly, it wouldn't have bothered me. The one tractor would have had a good chance to win. The other most likely would not even come close. But it makes a good rolling weight rack.



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oros35

03-13-2018 06:55:33




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
Around here, many of the pulls are just for fun.
If it's a fair pull they add money to the classes to bring people in. They payback spots based on class size. It's typical to have 30-35 in a class. Payback up to 10th place or even more. Smaller classes say 10 or so they may pay up to 5th. Some fair pulls will even pay nearly every place. You might get 5 bucks back on a $20 hook. All depends on the venue.
I prefer to go to pulls with a payback, who doesn't like the chance to win some money. But the fun pulls are just as good. Bragging rights and usually a bit cheaper on the hook fee.

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muleboss

03-12-2018 15:21:51




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
Why should they pay for 2nd and 3rd place. They are not winners. Kind of like participation medals.



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LCB

03-12-2018 14:39:59




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
Me and VicS make our living pulling tractors. I like Vic would of liked to know before I left home but if I was there already would of proably stayed for the day.



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D beatty

03-12-2018 10:53:24




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
Our club pays the first three places but if there is only 2 or 3 tractors in class I think they only pay first place. Once in a while somebody will put the money up for a Jackpot class and winner takes all. Myself I pull for the fun of it and our club has a nice bunch of guys to pull with.



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mmfan55

03-12-2018 12:25:09




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to D beatty, 03-12-2018 10:53:24  
A very few classes had less than 10 entries. Most were 12 to 20.



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PretendFarmer

03-12-2018 10:05:25




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
I guess that changes things a bit.

Payback pulls are extremely rare around here. But obviously that's a thing where your from.

All we get to do is spend tens of thousands of $$ to get a $2 trophy....



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Earle(NC)

03-12-2018 06:38:53




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
When I pulled it was only for fun. Never have known anyone in antique pulling doing it for the money



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PretendFarmer

03-12-2018 05:03:48




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
You deprived your kid of pulling 6 more classes because they didn't pay you......

Let that sink in.



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mmfan55

03-12-2018 06:38:31




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to PretendFarmer, 03-12-2018 05:03:48  
Guess I should have stated my son was included in making a joint decision. He was not impressed either. He is 32 by the way. Half of the entry fee was his money



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535353M

03-12-2018 06:30:47




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to PretendFarmer, 03-12-2018 05:03:48  
PretendFarmer,I agree,lessons like that are very important !!!!!!!!!!! And also,myself would have certainly figured to win at least one hook. LOL



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VicS

03-12-2018 04:06:45




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
I could handle it, but would like to know before I left home.



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showcrop

03-11-2018 18:28:19




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to mmfan55, 03-11-2018 14:42:23  
It wouldn't make a particle of difference to me. I am not in it for the money, only to P($$ people off, LOL.



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bill collison

03-13-2018 17:03:24




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to showcrop, 03-11-2018 18:28:19  
We pull for fun here
Where are you from that you can make a living pulling tractors?



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VicS

03-23-2018 06:50:56




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 Re: That was a 1st. in reply to bill collison, 03-13-2018 17:03:24  
Its a joke!



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