lets be careful with these machines.

Lamont · Jul 13, 2014

Just ride it out. As long as you're hooked below and behind the center of the axle it can't flip over when it's pulling. Once it gets to a certain point where the chain and drawbar form a stright line, that's all it's going to do. Again, this is provided you're drawbar and adjusters are below and behind the center of axle.

showcrop · Jul 14, 2014

(quoted from post at 21:49:38 07/13/14) Just ride it out. As long as you're hooked below and behind the center of the axle it can't flip over when it's pulling. Once it gets to a certain point where the chain and drawbar form a stright line, that's all it's going to do. Again, this is provided you're drawbar and adjusters are below and behind the center of axle.

A few years back I was in a pulloff for first on a stoneboat. I was right at the boat when the other guy hooked. The front of his 560 went up so fast that it bent the hitch supports and it kept going. The photo shows ten inches daylight between the top of a six-two guy's head and the bottom of the front tires. The chain was not keeping it from going over. Fortunately he somehow got the clutch in. Many people have to have their own personal bad experience before they will wear seat belts, or quit smoking, or put adequate weight on the front.

Danelle · Jul 14, 2014

Lamont says just ride it out! Omg,,, good way to wake up dead!

bp4455 · Jul 14, 2014

did u recheck your wheelie bars?

CLIFF S · Jul 15, 2014

Safety!

Everyone be safe out there and know that in any division 1 threw 5 of NATPA as of Now everyone will Need Wheelie Bars that Support the Tractor in its Highest Weight Class and a Kill Switch!

Make sure that your Wheelie bars are at least 6 inches be on the outside circumference of the further most back point of the tractor tire!

For more information check out natpa.com

Cliff S

Anonymous-0 · Jul 15, 2014

you are wrong, if the tractor can walk the sled ahead it will go over, just remember a quarter turn of the wheels puts the front end straight up, the reason for no adjusters above the axle is so if the hitch breaks it won't pull down and make the front come up, don't post stuff that you don't know anything about in an attempt to give people a false sense of security, if you don't want tip bars that's your choice, i'll pull with the peace of mind that they are on my tractor protecting me

wi50 · Jul 15, 2014

There's some real dimwits here.....thankfully some of them have left or been driven away but a few still remain. A few months ago someone posted a picture of a hitch they were trying to build on their Minne Mo. The top support was high on the tractor. I had posted that they should re think it and throw it away. I pointed out that they need to support it from the bottom. This led to the usual comments by some people telling me that I was "an armchair puller" that I should be quiet, that it'll never break anyway so it shouldn't be a concern, etc.

Well it's basic physics boys and girls. Support your hitches from the bottom.

I do see Lamonts point to just ride it out, though that's not always best. I see more damage, dangerous situations and problems from people who get scared.

And yes, feel free to flame me. It'll be entertaining should I have time to reply.

RCP · Jul 15, 2014

Cliff

I wanted to confirm that wheelie bars are required on D1 for NATPA.
When did this come into affect?
Is there a grace period?

Thanks
Rich

CLIFF S · Jul 15, 2014

RCP

Yes All Divisions 1 Threw 5!

This came into effect at the NATPA Summer Meeting and will have a grace on Division 1 but for only One Pull on Both Willie bars and kill switches!

Div 2 and 2t already requires wheelie bars but now also needs a kill switch and only the kill switch will there be a grace period ob 1 Pull on!

Div 3,4,5 already have these requirements and no further attention is required

Other than making sure your wheelie bars are far enough back and no more than 10 inches off the ground and a 5 inch by 5 inch square as a pad.

Cliff S

The Dukester · Jul 16, 2014

Some pull regulations allow hitches very high and very close to the rear axle centerline of the tractor. This eliminates the safety of having the hitch actual pull point forward of the axle and down far enough to make the pull effort pull the tractor front end down enough to over come the lifting of the front effort the pull on the rear wheels makes. These altered hitches can make pulling very dangerous even with wheelie bars because when the clutch is rapidly engaged the front of the tractor rises so quickly with so much momentum it will carry right on over planting the wheelie bar plates in the track and letting the tractor rotate over backwards. Without wheelie bars it is even much more apt to happen. It's the altered hitch point that creates the danger in most cases.

north puller · Jul 17, 2014

The fact that a stock type draw bar is attached to the tractor in front of the axle has absolutely no effect on how likely the tractor is to "go over" backwards.

If the hitch is rigid, and won't move, then the only thing that maters is the actual height and length if the hook point.

It doesn't make a lick if difference how it is attached to the tractor, weather in front or behind the axle, or above or below the axle.

showcrop · Jul 17, 2014

(quoted from post at 22:52:44 07/16/14) The fact that a stock type draw bar is attached to the tractor in front of the axle has absolutely no effect on how likely the tractor is to "go over" backwards.

If the hitch is rigid, and won't move, then the only thing that maters is the actual height and length if the hook point.

It doesn't make a lick if difference how it is attached to the tractor, weather in front or behind the axle, or above or below the axle.

Northpuller,I got a chuckle from Dukester's post. I have looked at many hitches, and despite being raised to twenty inches nearly all still pull from the factory point under the differential. That and the part about the clutch being rapidly engaged makes it look like he has never been to a pull, LOL.

lets be careful with these machines.

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