any sub arc welders here?

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I just got an old Storm Vulcan sub arc welder and am looking for a supplier for wire and flux. I know gleason sells it. Standard crank shaft used to sell if for about half the money, but are no longer in business. Any help would be great.
 
Yes. We run sub-arc by the mile on a daily basis at Arrow tank. Arrow tank.com. Lincoln electric,ESAB,Kobelco,Inco flux,to name a few. There's hundreds more suppliers.
 
(quoted from post at 15:02:26 05/04/14) I just got an old Storm Vulcan sub arc welder and am looking for a supplier for wire and flux. I know gleason sells it. Standard crank shaft used to sell if for about half the money, but are no longer in business. Any help would be great.
The two made in the USA companies that make and sell sub-arc wire and flux are ESAB and Lincoln Electric. There are also offshore brands like Bohler or Kobe. Most anything else here in the USA for sale is from re-packagers with their label. Stay away from China, India, Taiwan, Polish or any brand that is really cheap, unless the value of what's being welded is of no concern.

www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/consumables/submerged-arc/Pages/submerged-arc.aspx
www.esabna.com/us/en/products/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.productsbycategory&catId=59
Sorry, links refused to copy & paste as links.

Since a crankshaft welding machine has been purchased, I'm guessing there is already a complete crankshaft procedure in place for welding, straightening, stress relieving, etc.

The area Lincoln or ESAB technical representative can make recommendations for the wire/flux combination based on the type of forged steel being welded. If preferred, technical assistance is available directly on either website, if enough information is given for base materials and required final properties. There is such a wide range of forged crankshaft materials, it is best to use wire and flux combinations for a specific chemistry and heat treatment.

Based on my sad experience with used equipment (not a crank welder), recommend to get a bag of Lincoln 860 flux, 1 coil of L61 wire, and temporarily hook up the machine, put it through its paces with a range of parameters making sure the rotation and step over features work. When welding equipment gets old and balky, it almost takes a full time electrician to keep it going.
 
Yes I have a crank press and have spent a lot of time researching the whole process, I have straightened a lot of cranks before grinding with good results. The instruction manual also gives a fair amount of info as well, as for the machine, it seems to work very well on all settings. It came with some wire and flux so I have been welding some round stock to get the operation down. I have a few cranks to do when I like the feel of everything. Thanks for replies. will post some pics as well.
 
i too am at the stage of doing something along this topic.... storm vulcan 150b. rebuilt the whole wire feed drive, it lays a nice bead, seems to move when its supposed to,, i think its ready for a few test runs, soon as i rehook up the elect to it.
grinder,,, lol. o geesh, a berco/scholl model 2000-340. big. big machine. was an ebay purchace. busted off control wheel. thinking ive got the repair down to prepping to weld cast iron, to repair the main hand wheel, and welding the gear shifter that runs thru the middle. no big deal, if the cast weld hold up. started playing with some measuring equip,, dial indicators, n making stands to hold em. gotta get chucks for it too, ha. i think something would have to be adapted to fit it. could be a boat achor, could be a decent machine. altho, the story on the grinder getting it here,, is a story by itself...
the lesson learned on the long story made short,,, im only one man,,, to where this machine has injured me, and now just back to feeling good enough to even look at it. and it hasnt been turned on... yet.
seen some proceedure on welding, on youtube, seen my actual grinder being used on there.. its impressive. lol. im one guy,,,, and i know, i cant do what i used to before my little endeavor... just have to see how time flys...
 

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