Poll/ HP needed to pull in your area?

I have seen some crazy weight stacked on tractors lately on this site!
It takes a good 80110 HP to pull 4,000 pound class around southern Indiana from 3mph to 4mph if your wanting to stay on top of the food chain with cut tires...
What HP does it take in your area?
Thanks ¶
 
I pull 4200 to 5500 with 70 HP. Get in the top 3 often enough to keep it fun, but it's getting harder!! A lot of younger guys with deep pockets, I only have a couple of years left before I hang it up and am not going to spend the $$.
 
What are these tracks made out of, glue?! So you guys are saying if my tractor has 75hp(which it doesn't) that it will get snuffed in 4000# class? I would like to see some pics or videos of these tractors weighed up and needing over 100hp in a 3mph class at 4000#.
 
Hard sticky clay tracks with transfer sled in tow you will not do very well with less than 85 with top cut tires you will snuff it more often than not
 
on an early MM with 80hp in the 1938 and older class with a 15.5 tire size limit, full cut tires I can run second gear at 3/4 throttle and stay under the 3.5 speed limit from 5500 threw 6500 and up to 7500 in low here in north iowa. Im sure cut 18.4-38 rubber would motor me out at around 6500 in low gear. It takes lots more snot than it did 20 years ago.
 
tires and complete set up,hp is needed to be consistent and pull on real clay,I go all over the country,what some say is clay is really sandy slit,with very little real clay in it,if it doesn't get slippery and snotty when wet it is not clay.100hp will win much more in 4500 than 70.Every dog has it's day,but overall hp wins,with a good set up.The more power,the more critical the proper set up is,track reading is an art many do not study.
 
We built a 85 hp 3500 to 4500 hundred pound puller last winter. It won the 4500 lb class at the 50 yrs of progress pull at Rantoul Il. this summer. But the other day the track was biting good and he decided to quit at 4000 lb. with a 3 rd place. My 435 has about 80 hp and will always pull 4000 but sometimes 4500 will snuff it. This summer one of the biggest M's in the country was Snuffed at about the 6000 lb class at Mt. Vernon Il. It won the big King of the Hill class at Tunica last winter. So a short chain and a sticky clay track makes a difference. Vic
 
Massey 101 in 4500# class, compare that front weight to a Famall M with 14,000 pounds on it.
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Around Central ,Pa you need 50 HP in a small tractor just to be competitive in the 3000,3500 Non Cut (div 2) because 4000 on a good track will run ya out of power

In our top cut 3500 to 4500 75 to 100 HP to be at the top of the Class But all the HP need to get to the ground like anywhere elese and we have a lot of guys that can do it!

Cliff S

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On a very glue-like clay track with a conventional old style sled with a gradual weight climb and a 5-6' chain, I see varying amounts of horsepower winning. Usually it is 60-75 horsepower Allis Chalmers winning. A few warm Oliver 77 & 88 come in running in the 85 horsepower and doing very well. I hear these insane horsepower estimates and see results that defy those numbers. I'm not saying it doesn't help, but it's not always the case. A short chain and drop pan sled toughens things up a little. I pull a 48hp tractor in 4500 and 5000 at 3mph. I've taken 1st & 2nd all year till I got on a big pro sled or a very gooey track with some big power 77 Olies. Last year I was able do beat stroker I-H M's with a 98hp UB and 16.9 tires in 5500#. I can't do that on a fancy sled or super short chain.
 
long chains come with poor power tracks,weak sleds and are not fun,40 inch is a standard for most upper Midwest pulls,we have real clay,takes a lot of HP.and front end weight.
 

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