The first 1st place this year

Mopower

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Thought I'd pop a lil pic of the rustbucket up here after it's 1st place finish in Fowler, MI. It's landed quite a few 2nds against Deere As, Farmall Hs, and Oliver 77/88s. I didn't do as well in 4500# as I usually do, so I weighted up to 5500# with the winners of 4500#. Different story. Thank God for low gear. A fun day!
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Yeah I've seen some early H tractors with that gear. Not much can stop them as long as they have a bite.
 
We'll say 95%. All that metal came out of my leg and I was a new man. Besides that, a few memory issues, but not awful.
 
Never! I have perfect sheet metal for it, but why use it? I'm afraid it has to go back to a work tractor this fall with wide front, 3pt, and all. Gotta plow snow. M220 powered 335 will be out next year and hopefully 700-900 pounds lighter.
 
Ive never seen anything like this. The chain must be ten feet long, no front end weight, and an H pulling heavy. A stock H in my area wouldent get the chain tight.
 
(quoted from post at 21:33:29 08/29/13) Ive never seen anything like this. The chain must be ten feet long, no front end weight, and an H pulling heavy. A stock H in my area wouldent get the chain tight.

You can typically tell how much the track bites by the placement of the weights.
 
I think I had 540# on the nose and could have used another
100# up there. 1200# total hanging on the tractor (not
shown in photo).
 
(quoted from post at 06:08:42 08/30/13) Surely by now everyone in the world knows you have an H with a low gear, pretend puller. ENOUGH ALREADY !!!
I'm making good conversation. If you don't like it, I don't care.
I enjoy pulling, its supposed to be fun. Trolls like you can kiss my backside, I don't care for negativity. And by the way, if you got so much to say, at least log in.
 
The picture of H shows a cub in background wondering
if it might have extra motor.Antique pulling is for
fun,but winning is priceless to some people.Money
changes a lot of things that start out fun.Look at
NASCAR started out driving cars to track now it
takes $22 million to run a average team.
 
(quoted from post at 01:33:29 08/30/13) Ive never seen anything like this. The chain must be ten feet long, no front end weight, and an H pulling heavy. A stock H in my area wouldent get the chain tight.
There was 190lbs on the front by the way.
 
(quoted from post at 12:38:11 08/30/13) The picture of H shows a cub in background wondering
if it might have extra motor.Antique pulling is for
fun,but winning is priceless to some people.Money
changes a lot of things that start out fun.Look at
NASCAR started out driving cars to track now it
takes $22 million to run a average team.
If your wondering about the little tractor to the right on my picture, it is mainly stock just a whole ton of weights on it. It isnt mine.
 
(quoted from post at 21:36:26 08/30/13) Are there a couple of weights (suitcase or ?) laying flat inside the front weight bracket?
There were three flat pieces of steel that weighed 50lbs a piece and then a 40lb on front.
I don't understand the whiners. Its supposed to be fun. If someone is too stupid to figure out how to pull good, that's their fault not mine. I went straight for this tractor because so many said there is no way it can handle it even with low gear and that made it fun.....the chase.
 
(quoted from post at 17:10:31 08/31/13)
(quoted from post at 21:36:26 08/30/13) Are there a couple of weights (suitcase or ?) laying flat inside the front weight bracket?
There were three flat pieces of steel that weighed 50lbs a piece and then a 40lb on front.
I don't understand the whiners. Its supposed to be fun. If someone is too stupid to figure out how to pull good, that's their fault not mine. I went straight for this tractor because so many said there is no way it can handle it even with low gear and that made it fun.....the chase.

Hey PF where was that first pull that you went to before red power round up and Westfield fair. I was talking with a friend at a local pull Thursday that thinks that he may have seen you there. he has a very nice 1206. Are you of Polish ancestry?
 
my thoughts exactly. Im not trying to be a smart a-- but how does dead weight pulling work? It seems to me your pulling the same amount of weight at the ten foot mark as you are at the two hundred foot mark. Is it dirt in front of the pan that stops you? Is the challenge to find a better place to run on the track or who can find the best rubber or drawbar set up? Weight transfer sleds make the tractor work a little harder all the way down the track and tests the tractor output as well as the driver and set up. No disrespect intended, someone please explain.
 
(quoted from post at 09:56:44 09/01/13) my thoughts exactly. Im not trying to be a smart a-- but how does dead weight pulling work? It seems to me your pulling the same amount of weight at the ten foot mark as you are at the two hundred foot mark. Is it dirt in front of the pan that stops you? Is the challenge to find a better place to run on the track or who can find the best rubber or drawbar set up? Weight transfer sleds make the tractor work a little harder all the way down the track and tests the tractor output as well as the driver and set up. No disrespect intended, someone please explain.

I pull sled mostly but I just LOVE a stone boat pull occasionally. There is quite a lot of difference and it is more technical. In sled pulling you need to just keep the sled moving. In a stone boat pull, before you can keep it moving you have to get it started. On the final round of the weight class when most competitors cannot get a full pull, which is usually 10-20 feet, It takes very good technique to get it to start moving. It takes some clutch slipping and just the right amount of throttle and just the right amount of front end lift. The amount of draft you get from the boat varies a lot because the length of the chain varies a lot. I have seen any where from 4 to 12 feet. Most would say that momentum would not play a part because the speed is so slow. With my 960 I pull in second quite a bit. (Yeah, I know to Pretend Farmer that would be "Speed Pulling"). Last fall at one pull I read the track as telling me that momentum was going to decide it. I usually will use 2nd gear only in the first 2-3 rounds when the boat is lighter. I used it in each round in both the 3500 and 4000 lb classes, and won both classes, with 9 in the 3500 and 12 in the 4000, including 4 Super Cs in the 3500 and three in the 4000 lb. classes. I pulled 8500 in 3500 and 10,000 in the 4000. Give it a try some time you may like it! Another good thing about stoneboat pulling is that it is generally believed that extra power will only hurt you in stoneboat pulling, whereas it is generally believed that to win in stock sled pulling you have to cheat, so it tends to make people stop and think. Ford Power!!
 
Tried to post a link to a picture of our 445 that's on face Book. Maybe someone else can do it for me. I'm registered but sometimes I just can't get a link to go thru.
John R. Banet is my face book page. It also has a picture of our 600 Ford pulling indoors at LaOtto Ind. a couple of years ago.
Thanks!☺
 
No disrespect but pulling with that long of a chain is a lot different than pulling on the chains most weight transfers have which tends to be around 42". A whole ton on down force involved in the short chain. When we pull out of the field tractors here, they long chain them. That way it takes a lot less weight on the sled to stop them. If you were pulling here , once again no disrespect to your win, if you were to pull your H here in the 6500# class on a sticky clay track, and were able to run it until it spun out, you probably would be back 10-15" from the winner.
 

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