Yesterday's Tractor Co. Trusted Parts Supplier since 1995
Click Here or call 800-853-2651 
   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 
Marketplace
Tractor Manuals
Tractor Parts
Classified Ads
Photo Ads

Community
Discussion Forums
Project Journals
Tractor Town
Your Stories
Show & Pull Guide
Events Calendar
Hauling Schedule

Galleries
Tractor Photos
Implement Photos
Vintage Photos
Help Identify
Parts & Pieces
Stuck & Troubled
Vintage Ads
Community Album
Photo Ad Archives

Research & Info
Articles
Tractor Registry
Tip of the Day
Safety Cartoons
Tractor Values
Serial Numbers
Tune-Up Guide
Paint Codes
List Prices
Production Nbrs
Tune-Up Specs
Torque Values
3-Point Specs
Glossary

Miscellaneous
Tractor Games
Just For Kids
Virtual Show
Museum Guide
Memorial Page
Feedback Form

Yesterday's Tractors Facebook Page

Related Sites
Tractor Shed
TractorLinks.com
Ford 8N/9N Club
Today's Tractors
Garden Tractors
Classic Trucks
Kountry Life
Enter your email address to receive our newsletter!

subscribe
unsubscribe
  
Tractor Pulling Discussion Forum

Re: head gasket with fire ring

[Show Entire Topic]  

Author  [Modern View]
mEl

04-13-2013 17:53:07
96.249.137.243



Report to Moderator

Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

Mr Gasket,

I am quite sure that Doug uses the same system that I do, so for our application, yes, we have created our own solution. Doug's response was not out of line in any way as we have both had the exact same experience with Lubbock.

If I were seeking advice on an issue I would want to hear all comments so I could judge which way to proceed.
Many on forum have had bad experiences with other suppliers of the tractor pulling market and no one seems to mind hearing those comments so why should Lubbock be any different.

Look at it like Doug was looking out for the inquiring individual, I would want to know before I dumped a huge sum of money out.

mEl

[Reply]   [No Email]
Gasket

04-13-2013 18:50:25
206.126.223.231



Report to Moderator
 Re: head gasket with fire ring in reply to mEl, 04-13-2013 17:53:07  
Mel -

I understand your position. You have to understand mine: Not everyone wants to explore uncharted territory with the "gasketless" design. Some people may want the simplicity of drop on a gasket and torque it down. In addition, others may be running cylinder pressures that do not require a high performance sealing system. Fortunately, Lubbock fills this need.

My experience with Lubbock is Garbage IN Garbage Out. If you send a decent imprint of a block you will get a decent gasket back. When I have had a mislocated bore, they have always made it right with me. They told me flat out: The most accurate way to have gaskets made was to tool it up on their waterjet. You can have a base gasket with bore centers programmed then have whatever size bore cut when ordered.

I guess that's one guys bad experience (dboll) countered with one guys good experience (mine).

[Reply]  [No Email]
dboll

04-14-2013 09:10:32
209.23.168.205



Report to Moderator
 Re: head gasket with fire ring in reply to Gasket, 04-13-2013 18:50:25  
Mr. Gasket, I sent them a factory gasket for a pattern and I did all of the proper machine work. I don't see any garbage from my side. I called them to talk with them and see if there was anything done on my part that could have contributed to the failure to which they were no help. I have rebuilt many diesel and gas engines as we have always did our own work on the farm as well as doing jobs for others. I have also worked in a Case and jd dealership where my work was respected and I know what it takes to hold a gasket so I would appreciate you giving me the benefit of the doubt that I might know what I am talking about. Go to a national pull and visit with others, you will hear the same thing. Maybe a Model T gasket would be within their abilities.

[Reply]  [No Email]
mEl

04-14-2013 06:23:35
96.249.137.243



Report to Moderator
 Re: head gasket with fire ring in reply to Gasket, 04-13-2013 18:50:25  
Gasket,
I understand garbage in garbage out very well.

We supplied Lubbock with a accurate tapping of the block surface which we still have in our posession. The finished gasket as supplied hung over the bore and would not have sealed on the sleeve flange and torqued down would have interferred with the piston travel.
I do understand the drop on and torque theory with a gasket at moderate compression ratios but fire ring failure was a problem at the CR's that we like to run.
I must defend Doug in this matter, he is my friend, we have spent some time together at his farm looking his pulling iron over and talk at times via phone and he pulls with some of the best in his area and has a few trophys and ribbons. Please do not come down to hard on him as he just says what he thinks right out front, you never have to guess where he stands on an issue, that's not a bad thing.

mEl

[Reply]  [No Email]
[Show Entire Topic]     [Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Add a Reply]

Hop to:
TRACTOR   PARTS TRACTOR   MANUALS
Same-Day Shipping! Most of our stocked parts ship the same day you order (M-F).  Expedited shipping available, just call!  Most prices for parts and manuals are below our competitors.  Compare our super low shipping rates!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor.  We are a Company you can trust and have generous return policies!   Shop Online Today or call our friendly sales staff toll free (800) 853-2651. [ More Info ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2014 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters