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| Jon Aller
12-18-2012 09:48:36
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The sled is equipped to accommodate one if you have it. We don't have a rule requiring one though. |
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| Del Anderson
12-18-2012 19:11:03
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Re: Sigourney IA in reply to Jon Aller, 12-18-2012 09:48:36
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| Jon can you run a oliver 77 with a 310 in the 3500LB open class. Thanks Del. |
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| Jon Aller
12-19-2012 06:07:10
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Re: Sigourney IA in reply to Del Anderson, 12-18-2012 19:11:03
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| I like to use the "intent of the rule" approach to questions like this. While there is nothing specific in the rules that says you cannot run a longer/taller block in the open class, there is a factory HP limit for the light open classes 3500 and 3750. So, since an 88 sized tractor/block is not allowed to pull 3500 and 3750, I would apply the same logic to your situation. You cannot pull a 77 with an 88 sized block in 3500 or 3750 open. |
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| Del Anderson
12-19-2012 14:38:30
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Re: Sigourney IA in reply to Jon Aller, 12-19-2012 06:07:10
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| Jon thanks for letting me no about the rules. |
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| gtx1967jewison
12-19-2012 09:11:00
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Re: Sigourney IA in reply to Jon Aller, 12-19-2012 06:07:10
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| Its OPEN. What good is the word "open' if thats not what it means? I am always bewildered by this situation whenever a club does this. Then they cry that turnout is falling? Please explain. To most people open means run what ya brung. Limiting hp directly limits competition & attendance. We have a local club that limits horsepower to 33% over factory in open, & RPM to 10% over. This is NOT 'open' in any other motor sport! Oh but then they have a v-8 antique tractor class.....(?!?) |
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| Jon Aller
12-19-2012 11:47:27
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Re: Sigourney IA in reply to gtx1967jewison, 12-19-2012 09:11:00
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| | Obviously "Open" in the context of our rules does not mean "anything goes". This tractor pull is a once a year event that directly benefits(fund raiser) the local Expo Fair Board. The Fair is a traditional summer 4H/FFA event for the local youth. I have sole responsibility for interpreting/enforcing the rules, that have been in place since the inception of the pull over 20 years ago. I inherited this responsibility from my deceased father. The local Expo Board members and community volunteers are great about supporting the pull with a great deal of labour hours. Our priorities for the event are safety, consistency and creating an inviting environment for the continued success of the event. We don't have club politics or annual rules meetings voted on by small numbers of local pullers. The rules have remained largely untouched since their creation. I try to be as fair as possible to each and every puller and will seek out experts when I need to for specific makes/models when something comes up that I don't know. We always apply common sense to the interpretation of the rules in order to be as fair as possible. Above all, if anyone has questions/suggestions, I am always available at the end of the track checking the RPM of each and every tractor after they pull. |
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| dboll
12-19-2012 10:01:33
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Re: Sigourney IA in reply to gtx1967jewison, 12-19-2012 09:11:00
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| Jon and the crew at Sigourney run a good pull with a decent set of rules and very little problems so don't try to stick your finger in their eye if that's what you are trying to do. Let their rules be what they are. 75 tractors in the 5500 national? I don't think they have a problem with turnout! |
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| gtx1967jewison
12-20-2012 11:30:50
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Re: Sigourney IA in reply to dboll, 12-19-2012 10:01:33
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| Oh please dont think im knocking anyone! Thats not the point it sounds like a much better event with higher turnout than anything from lose to here. I just was wondering why clubs have a class called ' open' & then its not. It seems there are other classes for limited stuff & im just wondering if you build a full out machine & cant go in open class yhen how/where can you compete with it? I dont wanna spend 10k on a tractor i cant pull? Sorry for the confusion & thanks for any input :-) |
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| dboll
12-20-2012 19:50:30
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Re: Sigourney IA in reply to gtx1967jewison, 12-20-2012 11:30:50
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| there's limited shut down area at the end of the track in case something bad happened so anything goes might not be a good idea there, it is a fun pull to attend whether a person pulls or not if one is able to |
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| F20puller
12-20-2012 17:26:46
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Re: Sigourney IA in reply to gtx1967jewison, 12-20-2012 11:30:50
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| Open in SE iowa is pretty much run whatever speed you want and not "run what you brung" type rules. Some of the "open" tractors that meets the pulls rule go scary fast in that building anyway let alone anything that would go faster. Just my opinion and not trying to speak for Jon. |
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| Dirt slinger
12-23-2012 04:27:06
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Re: Sigourney IA in reply to F20puller, 12-20-2012 17:26:46
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| Lets turn the sled around and aim towards the open door |
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