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off topic school shootings and firearms

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tempola

12-16-2012 21:47:38
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The recent School shootings are terrible acts, representing the absolute worst human behavior imaginable.

Now that being said, here comes the predictable knee-jerk reaction...admonishing that all of us should get rid of our firearms. Well, its that liberal thinking that has caused these incidents,to begain with and I'll explain that in a moment.

The firearm that was used is not the issue. There are many ways of killing human beings, be it a firearm, poison gas, Baseball bat...or a hammer, an automobile, Shall I go on? So should we ban automobiles because someone got drunk, and killed someone with a car? Would this make us safer?

Things can be misused and harm caused as a result, It doesn’t make the device bad. Misused in the hands of a disturbed human can make virtually anything a lethal weapon. The proper use of firearms has given us the freedom to express our opinions. IT is also why we speak English, rather than German, Without firearms, most of us would not be here at all, because our grandparents would have been exterminated in a Nazi extermination camp, If Hitler had defeated the Allies in WWII.

But the real problem, is that Liberal policies have came home to roost, God is kicked out of the schools, And while the school officials were diligently watching, making sure God did not enter, A sicko slipped in and killed our children.

When I was in School, If we showed disrespect to our teachers, or didn’t do what was expected of us, We got our asses busted with the paddle. And it hurt,,,,and we didn’t want it again...We quickly learned that there was consequences to our actions, The liberals decided that paddling was just too barbaric and would scar us,,,,,,funny...I don’t feel traumatized One bit. The point was, that the rules in my day had teeth.....And the teachers made it very unpleasant to go against the rules. Thank God for those “old School” teachers.

Things that were accepted back then, were mostly tired and true things handed down from hundreds of years....things that worked. Like corporal punishment. Would set a rebellious kid back on the straight and narrow PDQ.......

But someone decided to tamper with the tested, and tried rules of raising children. And now it's the children raising us....or trying to. Teachers have no rights, and no way to put any real teeth into making them behave.

Oh Taylor, you're ideas are obsolete, and old fashioned....you say.

Damn right I am. But one thing I know for sure. The lack of respect, morality and manners that are shown by people of today’s society, Convinces me that there were some really important things missed in their rearing.

In my School days, We would sneak in Cigarettes, Beer, and sometimes would even beat the crap out of each other.....But we NEVER even dreamed of bringing Dads gun, (and most of us knew were it was and could have gotten it) And brought it to school, Killing our friends and teachers. We KNEW that was wrong, and it simply did not cross our mind. And our teachers would never let anyone harm us....no matter what it took.

There were no School Shootings back then. Maybe there is something to that old school ways after all?

SO no liberals, You cant have my guns. Look what happened when your feel-good policies came into effect...just look at how this generation acts Disgraceful....They failed miserably, and people have died. And now, You honestly expect us to listen to you yet again? How many people have yet to die because of your “just do it if it feels good” policies? And what is yet to come? The unsaid inferrence is that "do this one thing, and we will have utopia" But Utopia never comes, but we are asked to give up just one more freedom.


Andrew Taylor
Sarcoxie Mo USA.......

...A country that came into being by the use of firearms and by people who would be considered “troublemakers” or even worse “terrorists” By today's standards.

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The Dukester

12-20-2012 11:10:40
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 Re: off topic school shootings and firearms in reply to tempola, 12-16-2012 21:47:38  
Mr. Taylor is right.....this "passive attitude" we're supposed to take is ruining our country and making us fair game for some clever tyrant to come along and suddenly gain control of everything we hold precious. There must be some "policing in our society" or we will go the way of other nations that collapsed when decency and discipline were discarded. The future of our society rests in the character of our children, they must be raised properly and carefully. The primary responsibility of raising children is the duty of parents, assisted by school teachers and all other adult members of society, even police, that come in contact with the children. In reality, it's EVERYONE'S job.

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Gary in da UP

12-18-2012 14:57:16
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 Re: off topic school shootings and firearms in reply to tempola, 12-16-2012 21:47:38  
Andy, and others ... school massacres are by no means a recent phenominom. How to stop it... I wish I knew....



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Johndeereman

12-18-2012 14:46:09
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 Re: off topic school shootings and firearms in reply to tempola, 12-16-2012 21:47:38  
Why not give every adult in a school a tazer gun like the police do. It"s non lethal force that will stunn even a drug raged maniac.



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Mlkgsmer

12-18-2012 10:28:14
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 Re: off topic school shootings and firearms in reply to tempola, 12-16-2012 21:47:38  
Yup, don't forget to top it all of with a good realistic violent video game to teach killing is desirable. Why are we banning the tool of the criminal instead of the training manual? Laws are for law abiding citizens, criminals are such because they don't follow laws. And yes, Hitler, elected by his people and then, wow! Wake up America!!!! We the people are the government, remember high school civics? Lets act like it! Maybe time for some non politicians to take over and lead by example and common sense. Unfortantly that is not common any more. It is time to band together and remember this is the greatest place on earth and act like it. God bless that little town in a CN and may they be able to return to a dot on the map just like they were Thursday.

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RICHB

12-18-2012 07:52:14
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 Re: off topic school shootings and firearms in reply to tempola, 12-16-2012 21:47:38  
YOU'RE RIGHT ANDY!!! could not have said it better myself.



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Just Thinkin

12-18-2012 06:04:43
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 Re: off topic school shootings and firearms in reply to tempola, 12-16-2012 21:47:38  
You are right on! Two of the worst mass murders we have had in America were not by guns.
The Oklahoma bombing and of course 9/11.
Until we get adults to raise children and not children raising children this problem will only get worse. I bet we would be amazed at the number of murder suicides that occur on our highways each year.



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tim-m

12-17-2012 16:29:58
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 Re: off topic school shootings and firearms in reply to tempola, 12-16-2012 21:47:38  
100 per cent right Tempola!!!!!



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farmall green

12-17-2012 12:54:37
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 Re: off topic school shootings and firearms in reply to tempola, 12-16-2012 21:47:38  
I agree totally also mr.taylor, I raised my kids the old fashioned way also,and they turned out not bad,but the bad part is ,they seem like the weird one now. Thanks



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Mopower

12-18-2012 11:57:11
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 Re: off topic school shootings and firearms in reply to farmall green, 12-17-2012 12:54:37  
Around here, we're proud to be squares.



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mlpankey

12-17-2012 10:26:11
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 Re: off topic school shootings and firearms in reply to tempola, 12-16-2012 21:47:38  
All that would be relevant if the first school shooting hadnt happened in 1966 by a man who i believe was born in 1942.



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mlpankey

12-17-2012 13:46:20
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 Re: off topic school shootings and firearms in reply to mlpankey, 12-17-2012 10:26:11  
wikipeda school shootings the first is in 1700 and has went virtually ever year to present. Its not a new problem just one that now gets alot of news media



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Mopower

12-17-2012 08:38:44
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 Re: off topic school shootings and firearms in reply to tempola, 12-16-2012 21:47:38  
Amen. It's off topic and may get yanked, but it still needed to be said.



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730-LP

12-17-2012 05:44:56
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 Re: off topic school shootings and firearms in reply to tempola, 12-16-2012 21:47:38  
AMEN MR. TAYLOR you are a 110% right



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MLPANKEY

12-17-2012 04:56:17
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 Re: off topic school shootings and firearms in reply to tempola, 12-16-2012 21:47:38  
On December !4 the same day sandy occured in China a 36 year old enetered a grammar school and slashed 8 kids in the head with a knife . This is Chinas fourth time this year a person has attacked students with a kniife or wsords . You ask why they use a knife or sword its simple China has a gun ban . You can read about it on the web foreign news.



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B-maniac

12-17-2012 19:22:22
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 Re: off topic school shootings and firearms in reply to MLPANKEY, 12-17-2012 04:56:17  
And the Oklahoma bombing also killed kids and with a bomb made with common farm products. It ain't the weapon , it's the idiot we need to remove. How many of you parents scolded your kids for being a "tattle tale" when they were young and telling on their siblings????? I have two sets of "friends" that would scold the tattle tale daughter more than the perpetrator son doing wrong. Might be something we want to seriously re-think. Unfortunately kids are taught that "tattleing" or " narcing" on someone is wrong and un-cool. We are paying the price now. How many of you under the age of 50 will call the police if you suspect the vacant house down the road from you is drug selling house??? Not many I suspect until you discover a few little holes in your siding on your house.Unfortunately "minding ones own bussiness" can get you killed these days. It just might be your own life you save by getting involved.

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