north puller
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I don't know, or really care to know what mopower has for blocks in his tractor, but it has me thinking.
Jdbpuller said in a recent post "stock means stock on the outside", which got me thinking.
Another post about how NATPA is becoming like NHRA has me thinking.
I am a pull organizer, running a "stock" pull. My pull, like some others in the area, used to be heavily regulated, similar to div 2, with the idea that it would give the true "stock" farm tractor a chance to be competitive. After all, how could a little old massey 30 compete with an Oliver 77 sporting an 88 motor, or a 310? How could a little old farmall m compete with a mini ub sporting a 403?
Tractors had to have all parts, front to back, (not including hubs, rims, and tires) with the correct casting numbers. Especially correct numbers on blocks, heads, and crankcases. This proved to be a terribly time consuming job for the teck crew.
But along the way I got to thinking about "stock on the outside". Why is it not ok for a guy to buy a $1500 403 motor and put it in his UB, but a guy can build a $5000 409 stroker for his M and all is good?
A guy can't use a power block, or a Murphy's block in his G (we wouldn't alow power blocks), but he can stroke it to 10".
A guy can't put a 310 in his 77 oliver, but a farmall h can have a motor built bigger than a 450.
Seems that the "stock" classes, similar to div 2, have become a class that caters to the wealthy who can aford to keep their motors "stock on the outside" while making more power than those who would simply repower with a bigger motor.
A class or division for stock type tractors would be nice to have, but if the engines arn't required to be stock on the inside, then why require them to be stock on the outside?
The stock outside, giant stroker motors that are prowling aroung the stock classes are not helping the poor man who can't afford to "hop up" his tractor.
The stock on the outside rule is really killing the poor man's chance, along with the not poor but not rich man's chance, in the very class that was meant for the small time puller: the stock, or near stock class.
Today, the rules at my pull are much more relaxed. A speed limit keeps things toned down somewhat. I know that the big power tractors still have the upper hand on the true stock ones, but why pretend that they are pure stock? If a guy has 100hp in a tractor that from factory had 50, then who cares what components are used to get it there?
Jdbpuller said in a recent post "stock means stock on the outside", which got me thinking.
Another post about how NATPA is becoming like NHRA has me thinking.
I am a pull organizer, running a "stock" pull. My pull, like some others in the area, used to be heavily regulated, similar to div 2, with the idea that it would give the true "stock" farm tractor a chance to be competitive. After all, how could a little old massey 30 compete with an Oliver 77 sporting an 88 motor, or a 310? How could a little old farmall m compete with a mini ub sporting a 403?
Tractors had to have all parts, front to back, (not including hubs, rims, and tires) with the correct casting numbers. Especially correct numbers on blocks, heads, and crankcases. This proved to be a terribly time consuming job for the teck crew.
But along the way I got to thinking about "stock on the outside". Why is it not ok for a guy to buy a $1500 403 motor and put it in his UB, but a guy can build a $5000 409 stroker for his M and all is good?
A guy can't use a power block, or a Murphy's block in his G (we wouldn't alow power blocks), but he can stroke it to 10".
A guy can't put a 310 in his 77 oliver, but a farmall h can have a motor built bigger than a 450.
Seems that the "stock" classes, similar to div 2, have become a class that caters to the wealthy who can aford to keep their motors "stock on the outside" while making more power than those who would simply repower with a bigger motor.
A class or division for stock type tractors would be nice to have, but if the engines arn't required to be stock on the inside, then why require them to be stock on the outside?
The stock outside, giant stroker motors that are prowling aroung the stock classes are not helping the poor man who can't afford to "hop up" his tractor.
The stock on the outside rule is really killing the poor man's chance, along with the not poor but not rich man's chance, in the very class that was meant for the small time puller: the stock, or near stock class.
Today, the rules at my pull are much more relaxed. A speed limit keeps things toned down somewhat. I know that the big power tractors still have the upper hand on the true stock ones, but why pretend that they are pure stock? If a guy has 100hp in a tractor that from factory had 50, then who cares what components are used to get it there?