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Re: what is stock? for the rich or the poor?

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MNJDG

10-23-2012 16:43:42
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Why are the power blocks and heisler heads not legal, were they not built to increase power in the field for stock farm tractors. The power block doesn't even have as much compression as a new set of aluminum pistons. The heisler head was designed to allow good use of better fuels available to farmers using older tractors.




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mm585

10-23-2012 17:44:38
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 Re: what is stock? for the rich or the poor? in reply to MNJDG, 10-23-2012 16:43:42  
MNJDG, I have the original heisler pamplet that tells the horse power gains using there heads, and pistons.They didnt seem to much care obout old tractors and new fuel. Tsc power Block, They should have called it the big bore low compresion block then? Excellent attempt at pushing the rules though!! If Deere didnt manufacture the block or head for the modle tractor its bolted to then it isnt as it came from the factory, Thus IT ISNT STOCK! This should include a flat head on a late G!

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FactoryFarmer

10-24-2012 06:59:48
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 Re: what is stock? for the rich or the poor? in reply to mm585, 10-23-2012 17:44:38  
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Thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard since back in the day Deere would actually go out and put flatheads on late Gs to convert them over to gas form all-fuel. So your saying something that Deere bolted on itself is not allowed?

Guys, look at any pull. Most of the guys pulling are not stock. So if you chase those guys away who is going to pull? Like it not those guys are a huge part in your pull no matter where you are. Lets just say if the rules are stock blocks and head, stock tires, stock weight, etc. then what stops me from sleeveing the block out to 7", port and polish the head, and throwing in a 10" crank? Is it going to get to the point where the people running the pulls are going to start pulling crankcase covers? Thats really going to get people coming to pulls....

How about this, have the rules somewhat open as to mods go but make everyone (that has a pto) dyno their tractor before the pull and place everyone into classes based on that. And for the guys who do not have a pto, they can be placed in the open class and it would keep them from pulling with all of the stock guys.

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10-24-2012 07:12:32
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 Re: what is stock? for the rich or the poor? in reply to FactoryFarmer, 10-24-2012 06:59:48  
whoever takes a 100% bone stock tractor to a competitive pull does it once!! some people can't get that thru their heads. we encourage FFA kids/local restored stock club/etc to "show off" their restored tractors as pulloff/tow vehicles, etc...if they want to pull...let them pull kinda by themselves(end of day? or just a FFA class)...get them the "bug" that way......if you run off the tractors that currently pull in the "stock" class cause they are stock on the outside and do stay under your speed limit you'll have NOONE at the pull either! you can talk about this all day, every day, not gonna fix much of anything...

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boomgarden

10-23-2012 17:26:05
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 Re: what is stock? for the rich or the poor? in reply to MNJDG, 10-23-2012 16:43:42  
MNJDG think about what you just said. Heisler heads and power blocks were built to gain power or they wouldent have been built. Bigger bore, raised compresion. NOT STOCK!



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