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Tractor Pulling Discussion Forum

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dgerth

10-14-2012 07:30:08
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Looking for opinions plz, What combinations of tractor and engine would be competitive in the 3K and up classes using Allis Chalmers machinery?
Tks for responses ahead of time.
dg




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boomer1

10-15-2012 18:55:20
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 Re: AC puller in reply to dgerth, 10-14-2012 07:30:08  
I would get a D-21 426 engine and put it in a WC-I would use a P pump with 15mm plungers and a good 4.1 Turbo---You should be almost unbeatable-unless you run up against a 466 in a C Farmall!!!



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dgerth

10-14-2012 21:15:40
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 Re: AC puller in reply to dgerth, 10-14-2012 07:30:08  
Tks soo much for opinions! Are we looking at a WC with a WD45 engine or what seems to be the consensus
on this? What, how to build etc?
What say yall?
dg
ps: I was contemplating a WC or WD WD45 combo. Will the combine (Gleaner) engines fit? or what prob will one encounter?
dg



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VicS

10-15-2012 18:05:01
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 Re: AC puller in reply to dgerth, 10-14-2012 21:15:40  
With a short chain, a 226 WD45, D17, or a Late Combine engine isn"t enough engine in a WC, WD or a WD 45 gas. They might be if you put a D17 ring and pinion in your WD 45 gas. A WD 45 diesel has the same ring and pinion. The cheapest thing you can do for hp and torque is to stroke your WD 45 engine 1/2 in. Use your rods and pistons. Can get this done for around 500 dollars. I"m talking about using 15.5 X 38 rear tires. We pull a Steel rear WC with fast gears and a 366 engine, will pull 3 or 6 mph in low gear. A lot of guys you pull against will have 400 plus cu in.

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bp4455

10-15-2012 06:54:33
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 Re: AC puller in reply to dgerth, 10-14-2012 21:15:40  
The gleaner is pretty easy to drop in. you may want to put the stock governor and front cover on the combine motor. def use taller 4.125 pistons to get compression ours is about 12:1 and runs well on 93 octane gas.



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north puller

10-15-2012 04:36:55
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 Re: AC puller in reply to dgerth, 10-14-2012 21:15:40  
If you are looking for something quick, easy, and cheap, then build a WD45 engine with a .125" overbore kit. Makes 240 cubes. If you don't mind running the "best of the best" as far as fuel goes, then by a WD rebuild kit instead of a WD45 kit. The taller pistons will put compression way up. I haven't got a real straight answer, but seems compression would be in the 12 - 13 range.



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dgerth

10-14-2012 21:07:49
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 Re: AC puller in reply to dgerth, 10-14-2012 07:30:08  
Thanks soooo much! Are we looking at a WC with a WD45 engine "pumped" ? or what is the best opinion here?
dg



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Kip-Utah

10-14-2012 18:52:43
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 Re: AC puller in reply to dgerth, 10-14-2012 07:30:08  
I agree WC hand brakes are a plus when it comes to pulling. I find them much more instinctive to use than foot brakes! I have a bias but my choice would absolutely be a WC. We"ve won classes from 3,000-4,500 with ours. If you want to run fenders it"s tough to get down to 3,000 especially with an unstyled tractor. I also like the electric starter on the styled models, but we pull both styled & unstyled WCs and do well with either. Good Luck! Kip

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slowsmoke

10-14-2012 07:58:10
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 Re: AC puller in reply to dgerth, 10-14-2012 07:30:08  
WC with stamped steel rear end will make 3000#. just add a 45 crank and you're good to go. I have one for sale!



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another Puller

10-14-2012 11:06:06
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 Re: AC puller in reply to slowsmoke, 10-14-2012 07:58:10  
what tractor is lighter the styled wc or unstyled wc?



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bp4455

10-14-2012 10:23:56
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 Re: AC puller in reply to slowsmoke, 10-14-2012 07:58:10  
i would make a wd on 13.6 or 15.5 38s Mine on 13.6 will just make 3250 class. You could save more weight by getting small front tires and deleting the hand clutch. use angle iron or aluminum for light weight brackets. The problem with a wc is the rearends are geared really high and its about impossible to use the handbrakes in pulling. For engine use gleaner motor and overbore kit.



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slowsmoke

10-14-2012 15:07:34
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 Re: AC puller in reply to bp4455, 10-14-2012 10:23:56  
it's VERY easy to use hand brakes pulling. "two handed posi" They are geared fast. mine has 14.9/38's and I run 3.5 mph speed limit. RC ring and pinion would help, or the corn picker 2 speed that's under drive



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