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Tractor Pulling Discussion Forum

Belly bar

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hotrod60

01-16-2011 17:36:48
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What does one benefit from a belly bar on a JD other than another place to hang weights i guess what i am asking is does it help with traction or does it help to keep the front down now i know it will be different for different makes on my JD it's more around the middle of the tractor my brother's farmall M its more back between the rear wheels i was just wondering what expierience some of you have had with this

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Jim Johnson

01-18-2011 12:03:18
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 Re: Belly bar in reply to hotrod60, 01-16-2011 17:36:48  
It does help. I've seen where there's a loose track and I didn't need any weight up front but a little in the center was enough to keep it down. It's another advantage to getting the weight distributed just right. It can even make a difference whether they are hanging towards the front or towards back.

Jim



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48 JD A Puller

01-17-2011 13:41:06
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 Re: Belly bar in reply to hotrod60, 01-16-2011 17:36:48  
It helped my john deere a alot its helps hold down the front and lets the tires spin some to help with holding power i always did good with it



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a4

01-17-2011 14:55:10
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 Re: Belly bar in reply to 48 JD A Puller, 01-17-2011 13:41:06  
I believe in them ,can't quite explain why it works.My farmer crowbar thinking made me put it all on the front and back.I was either spinning out or stnding the front up.I watched the Colton family and they never ran anything up front on a JD G.I followed there example with much better results better balance on a G [styled]



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colekicker

01-16-2011 21:08:10
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 Re: Belly bar in reply to hotrod60, 01-16-2011 17:36:48  
The force of weight is multiplied the further from the fulcrum point (rear wheels).
So, you move up the next class, 500 lbs up. You put 100 lbs on the nose, 200 lbs on the rear and 200 lbs on the belly bar. That 100 lbs on the nose, may end up being more like 700 lbs when you put it 10' or 11' in front of the rear axle.
Tractor pulling is all just physics, but with a lot of variables.



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north puller

01-16-2011 20:14:55
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 Re: Belly bar in reply to hotrod60, 01-16-2011 17:36:48  
I don't have a "belly bar" but do have weight brackets off of the frame beside the block on my JD 70. This is far enough forward to keep the front down on my setup. They started out as a place to hang more weight, but I got rid of my front bracket when I realized I didn't need it. Just how my setup works.



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MMZAck

01-16-2011 19:32:34
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 Re: Belly bar in reply to hotrod60, 01-16-2011 17:36:48  
I'll second what's below. It's really just another place to hang weights. Basically, you can hang weights anywhere you want on a tractor because overall you're only adjusting the loading on the front and rear axles for a particular track condition.

Zack



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G Fever

01-16-2011 18:22:51
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 Re: Belly bar in reply to hotrod60, 01-16-2011 17:36:48  
Its another place to hang more weight to pull heavier classes.



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tcpaul

01-16-2011 18:18:11
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 Re: Belly bar in reply to hotrod60, 01-16-2011 17:36:48  

my jd a had abar at the belly three years before one was put on the front



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no benefit

01-16-2011 17:54:37
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 Re: Belly bar in reply to hotrod60, 01-16-2011 17:36:48  
no benefit...put it on the front or the back. never understood why people have belly bars.



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Eric Bloom

01-17-2011 04:54:59
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 Re: Belly bar in reply to no benefit, 01-16-2011 17:54:37  
i had a belly bar for a while. It just served as a place for me to out guess myself on where to put the weights. so i took it off. now i only have 2 choices instead of 3. but i can still out guess myself if i try.



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VicS

01-17-2011 12:11:03
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 Re: Belly bar in reply to Eric Bloom, 01-17-2011 04:54:59  
Sure Eric but you do fine. But I agree with colekicker, If I put 2 weights on the rear and 2 weights in the middle, then 2 weights on the front I seem to be balanced the same as the class before. But it takes 8 to make 500 lb. So I am constantly moving the other two. So I guess you are right, after all. LOL Vic



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