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JD 4010 at Tunica

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JDGnut

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Ok.. someone tell me about this 4010.. someone spent sometime stripping it down pretty light.. how light?? Lots of AL
JD 466 block with A pump, Naturally Aspirated...
Some spent a lot of time, and did a nice job.. Lots of little things.. (I like the two cylinder throttle arm.. Nice touch)
And why's it at Tunica??
(Sorry, crappy phone picture..)

Had a chance to walk through the building this evening about 6.. lots of nice tractors...
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Whats the matter the moline boys dont like a deere that could possibly beat them when it is a 466 cubic inch verses a 800hd plus cubic inch plus, both natural aspired and other tractors in 5500 or 6000lb. classes are stripped also ,someone must be a Natpa puller as they voted us down at there annual division V meeting in March 2010. what could be wrong with this picture????? Just a thought
 
Brian,
You and I both know that this is the future of antique pulling if it is going to survive. Sooner than later younger generations will be running these kind of tractors or there will be no interest in it. Segregate by MPH classes and quit playing favorites. A 4010 is 50 years old! MHO, DW
 
look real close, probably has a mean green sticker on it somewhere, doesnt have side sheilds so probably wont even be in modified.
 
I wonder why classes are not added for 1960 thru maybe 1970? 1972? Call them Classic, since the 60's saw a lot of innovations? A lot of great tractors were made in that 10 to 12 year run.
 
The real discussion here needs to be about the vastly different technology level of the tractors such as the 4010 compared to the tractors we normally associate with being antique. I have no problem with these tractors pulling and maybe some clubs that aren't getting a lot of hooks would benefit from them . But create a class for them so there is a clear distinction between them and legitimate antiques engineering wise, most people would understand that except those lucky enough to have one of the power steering, closed center hydraulics, powershift equipped F12's. mEl
 
Well put WTW, what difference does it make what year it is if you have a speed limit. Antique pulling got started in my area 30+ yrs ago. the production yrs allowed in the improved classes are still the same now as then. I would love to see a stripped Allis xt 190, pull against those DIV III strokers. and for alot less money to go 3.5 mph.
 
(quoted from post at 06:14:54 12/02/10) Whats the matter the moline boys dont like a deere that could possibly beat them when it is a 466 cubic inch verses a 800hd plus cubic inch plus, both natural aspired and other tractors in 5500 or 6000lb. classes are stripped also ,someone must be a Natpa puller as they voted us down at there annual division V meeting in March 2010. what could be wrong with this picture????? Just a thought
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First off I am not a Moline guy,

Secondly, you really think a naturally aspirated diesel under 500 cubes will even hang with an NA gas engine the same size or even smaller? Not a chance.

Now, if they let them run trubo's, well, the gas motors shouldn't even unchain theirs from the trailer.

Speed limits help even the field but do not make it fair for all, the smaller motors have to run lower gears and cannot keep up their ground speed as the tires start to slip, while bigger motors can take a taller gear and have throttle left to stay at the speed limit.
 
would have to agree. Speed and tire limits put tractors where they've all got the same chance of winning if they have the HP to keep up with pace. I'd put any antique we own up against any of the newest New Holland, Kubota, Case IH, Mahrinda, Kiote, etc. tractos in a 3-5 mph class - heck they could even run a turbo - I still like my odds.
 
(quoted from post at 15:28:01 12/02/10)
(quoted from post at 06:14:54 12/02/10) Whats the matter the moline boys dont like a deere that could possibly beat them when it is a 466 cubic inch verses a 800hd plus cubic inch plus, both natural aspired and other tractors in 5500 or 6000lb. classes are stripped also ,someone must be a Natpa puller as they voted us down at there annual division V meeting in March 2010. what could be wrong with this picture????? Just a thought
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First off I am not a Moline guy,

Secondly, you really think a naturally aspirated diesel under 500 cubes will even hang with an NA gas engine the same size or even smaller? Not a chance.


Now, if they let them run trubo's, well, the gas motors shouldn't even unchain theirs from the trailer.

Speed limits help even the field but do not make it fair for all, the smaller motors have to run lower gears and cannot keep up their ground speed as the tires start to slip, while bigger motors can take a taller gear and have throttle left to stay at the speed limit.
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SuperIH, you made a good point about speed limits not really being limiting factors. When you have a high HP tractor, you can run, say a 6-8MPH gear at 3.5MPH, and as you slip, you just give er a little more juice. Tire speed increases. If your tractor is one that you just put it in gear and go full throttle, you might not know what i'm talking about. Pay close attention to the big HP ($$$) tractors.

If you REALLY want the speed limit to limit people, DQ people for touching the throttle after the committment cone.

Just like top cut tires, but that's another story.
 
If your tractor is one that you just put it in gear and go full throttle, you might not know what i'm talking about.
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Yes my tractor is one that I just put in gear and go full throttle............................in the open classes :twisted: .........but I mainly pull Div III classes.

Also,the two times that I was fortunate enough to be able to go to Tunica I absolutely loved it, would recommend the pull to anyone, the best in southern hospitality and I found nothing wrong with the rules, if the rules do not fit you then you need to change, not the rules.


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(quoted from post at 12:02:09 12/02/10)
SuperIH, you made a good point about speed limits not really being limiting factors. When you have a high HP tractor, you can run, say a 6-8MPH gear at 3.5MPH, and as you slip, you just give er a little more juice. Tire speed increases. If your tractor is one that you just put it in gear and go full throttle, you might not know what i'm talking about. Pay close attention to the big HP ($$$) tractors.

If you REALLY want the speed limit to limit people, DQ people for touching the throttle after the committment cone.

Just like top cut tires, but that's another story.
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EXACTLY!!! Give it more throttle after 75ft and your done. Bpuller for President!

What about the 4010, hope Gnut got more pics...
 
(quoted from post at 16:52:16 12/02/10)
If your tractor is one that you just put it in gear and go full throttle, you might not know what i'm talking about.
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Yes my tractor is one that I just put in gear and go full throttle............................in the open classes :twisted: .........but I mainly pull Div III classes.

Also,the two times that I was fortunate enough to be able to go to Tunica I absolutely loved it, would recommend the pull to anyone, the best in southern hospitality and I found nothing wrong with the rules, if the rules do not fit you then you need to change, not the rules.


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Puller1, that didn't come out real good, I talking to the masses, not you :)
Should have read, "If your tractor is one you pull at full throttle in 3.5MPH class...."

I hear ya, I like mine in 5th wide open too... much more fun.

Hope to get up there to see you guys this summer. Changing things a little to "comply" with your RPM rules. Fun running the open classes at 10% RPM, but will be a lot more fun when running the same as you are. :) Still working on the remote control so I can drive it from about 100' away.

JDGnut, sorry to hijack your post,
 
I thought it was a 4010.. I looked at the tag.. but it was hard to read the first digit.. (I won't make it back out there until tonight..) it was a 10 series with a 466.. haha.. I really didn't get any more pictures of it.. yet..

WTW.. I agree.. but most will fight it until the end..

If it does pull.. even it its not in a class.. I'd still like to see it run.. Like I said.. it looked like lots of little things done to the tractor..
 
(quoted from post at 14:06:37 12/02/10) I thought it was a 4010.. I looked at the tag.. but it was hard to read the first digit.. (I won't make it back out there until tonight..) I really didn't get any more pictures of it.. yet..
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Get more pics and remember to use your good camera. :lol:
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it would be allowed on easternshore of md if had side shields an scatter blanket wheelie bars an break away kill switch
 
Belongs to the Foster Family in Scottsville, Ky. Good running tractor. Made exhibition passes thursday at Tunica, been running SKAP most of the summer I think.
 
Hey TV Man you know that there are a bunch of us yellow bills in NAPA that would love to have your 4010 pulling with us. I remember one night in Carthage we had a lot of fun.
Ken
 
Dave, when will common sense rule?

I don't care if you pull a tractor new off the dealers lot, if it weighs the same and is limited to the same mph, tires, hitch.
 
He ran twice for exb, the announcer said went 9.5
mph I think. There were at least 2 466 diesel IHC
that they let pull. It's time for 4010's and
806's.But will be more expensive to pull
indoors,Just the few diesels that pull at Tunica
made me move down from the bleachers.
 
(quoted from post at 00:53:54 12/04/10) He ran twice for exb, the announcer said went 9.5
mph I think. There were at least 2 466 diesel IHC
that they let pull. It's time for 4010's and
806's.But will be more expensive to pull
indoors,Just the few diesels that pull at Tunica
made me move down from the bleachers.
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That's kinda the pot calling the kettle black isn't it? :)

How did that noismaker do down there?
 
My son said I can't brag on here, I didn't win but I
did place twice. about 7 ft short in king of hill.
 
VicS:

Is this 4010 yours? It sure is a beauty. How many cubes is it and whats it making for power (roughly)? I love pulling new generation and new generation II tractors. These will be antiques and there should be more classes for them then rather than in just farm stock. Heck the early 4010's are about to hit 50 years old and people are still using them every day. You dont see that with many other makes as you do mostly with JD's.
 
(quoted from post at 11:51:44 12/05/10) No it's not mine, I thought jdb was asking how my 435jd did.
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Yes Vic, I was asking how the 435 did. Good to hear you placed a few times. Also thought it was funny your comment about diesels smoking the place up.
 
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