Black & White For Ford Grey?

Tall T

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I have a quart of gloss black and gloss white and wonder if someone has found the magic mixing proportions.

I have a Jubilee and am just finishing up rim restoration.

Thanks,
Terry
 

It's your tractor. If it were mine I would take a part like one side of the hood where it has not been molested on the inside, and take it to the paint jobber and get it digitally analyzed.
 
(quoted from post at 18:03:41 07/01/14)
It's your tractor. If it were mine I would take a part like one side of the hood where it has not been molested on the inside, and take it to the paint jobber and get it digitally analyzed.

Good idea . . . or reminder.

The manager of our local auto parts told me last year that he was on the verge of having that paint mixing capability. They deal in valspar, which seems to garner mixed opinions, but what the hey.

Thanks,
T
 
black and white will make an assortment of "brown shade" greys but most greys will also have a little blue in them to take the "brown shade" away and give it the true grey most tractors/equipment use. Spray some home mix on beside factory and you will see what I mean by "brown shade". I like to climb over the gate to save wear on the hinges also but not when it comes to paint.
 
(quoted from post at 18:47:33 07/01/14) black and white will make an assortment of "brown shade" greys but most greys will also have a little blue in them to take the "brown shade" away and give it the true grey most tractors/equipment use. Spray some home mix on beside factory and you will see what I mean by "brown shade". I like to climb over the gate to save wear on the hinges also but not when it comes to paint.

Many say that the Ford gray of that time had a brown tint to it.
 
I asked the auto parts manager today about it and he said to bring them a piece of grey body metal so he could photo it and send it to wherever they digitally analyze it and then he could mix the paint.

Anyhoo . . . I'm not so sure whoever did this previous amateurish but adequate restoration (grinder marks under the paint etc.) even took the trouble to use actual Ford Grey.

I painted my rear work light pot in a light grey by Tremclad Rust Paint and it looks just fine and super close to original . . . so I think I'll just do my rims in this paint and be done with it. Clean, rust free and handsome from 10 feet away is really my only objective. :)

It is called "Light Grey"
http://www.rustoleum.ca/CBGProduct.asp?pid=6

If I do ever do the sheet metal, then I'll do right by it with color and spray.

T
 
the trouble is the paint is the least part of a paint job and you
would have a color you would be unhappy with for years
because it was'nt right.
Go set up an account on Amazon.com and buy some Valspar
Ford gray and some hardener.
It's not expensive and I have had great luck with it.
 

True; all the labor in the prep makes the painting the least of it all by far and the easiest to disappoint color-wise or to get right.

I wish I'd known this a few days ago -- about the Valspar number already being in existence.

The problem is that my rims are now primed with a turpentine thinned primer. Maybe a sealer is in order?

Thanks,
Terry
 
I have painted a bunch of stuff with Valspar.
Primer didn't seem to matter much - rattle can, rust oleum,
lacquer, fancy epoxy, etc.
Color coat worked fine on all of them.
Maybe try some on an unobtrusive area of your rims before
you go the full monte.
You might be happily surprised.
 
What is the Valspar thinned with?
Maybe thinning with reducer rather than lacquer thinner is the secret to not lifting a non-lacquer compatible primer.

I'll get some and if it doesn't pan out on the rims, I'll use it later for body metal. I have a skinny ammo box that I plan to put on the tractor, so I'll primer it with the same primer and test the Valspar on it to see if the primer bubbles up underneath. I had that happen once on a Citroen gas pedal, but I can't remember exactly what I did.

I emailed the Ford Grey number to my auto parts manager friend who deals in Valspar. I have a quart of Black Valspar downstairs (my shop) so I'll go read the can right now.

Thanks,
Terry


Looks promising!!
Label says:
Contains mineral spirits and xylene.
It is called anti-rust armor and says to use Valspar anti-rust primer.
Says to clean up brushes or whatever with Min spirits.

In short is seems to be identical to the Tremclad Rust Paint
that I was planning to use over the Tremclad Rust primer!!
 
RE. FORD GREY VALSPAR

Today the parts store manager said he talked for 20 minutes
and couldn't get the paint mixing proportions right from valspar.

He says only the spray cans of FORD GREY seem to be available.

Is old stock out of Amazon the only way to get a quart?

He also said again to bring down a body part and he would photograph it with their special camera -- presumably properly color sync'd. I'm looking at the four screws that hold the hood to the hinge arms.

Frustrating.

Thanks,
Terry
 
(quoted from post at 16:07:06 07/08/14) RE. FORD GREY VALSPAR

Today the parts store manager said he talked for 20 minutes
and couldn't get the paint mixing proportions right from valspar.

He says only the spray cans of FORD GREY seem to be available.

Is old stock out of Amazon the only way to get a quart?

He also said again to bring down a body part and he would photograph it with their special camera -- presumably properly color sync'd. I'm looking at the four screws that hold the hood to the hinge arms.

Frustrating.

Thanks,
Terry

You may be fortunate that you couldn't get Valspar Ford Gray, because how do you know which Ford gray it is?
 
Well at least they seem to specify the Light Ford Grey or the Dark of the earlier N's.

Here's a couple of paint shade photos.
I restored and painted the rear light with "Light Grey" Tremclad rust paint. It IS a shade lighter than the reast of the tractor.

The body paint is very hard so I suspect that they did take the trouble to find the right color of FORD GREY auto paint -- but who knows.

What say you?

Thanks,
T

Well thanks to good old vise grips with good teeth, I got the 4 hood screws loose -- with liquid brown rust dripping off the threads. Did I mention I love Amsoil MP? :D

So tomorrow I'll whiz the hood to the Valspar guy for the digital color match.

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(quoted from post at 18:35:53 07/08/14) Well at least they seem to specify the Light Ford Grey or the Dark of the earlier N's.

Here's a couple of paint shade photos.
I restored and painted the rear light with "Light Grey" Tremclad rust paint. It IS a shade lighter than the reast of the tractor.

The body paint is very hard so I suspect that they did take the trouble to find the right color of FORD GREY auto paint -- but who knows.

What say you?

Thanks,
T

Well thanks to good old vise grips with good teeth, I got the 4 hood screws loose -- with liquid brown rust dripping off the threads. Did I mention I love Amsoil MP? :D

So tomorrow I'll whiz the hood to the Valspar guy for the digital color match.

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It isn't possible to judge from a photo. Hopefully the underside of the center panel is original.
 
Hi Showcropper,

I'm glad you gave me that tip about the backside.
But because I picked the hood, it figures that it has been sprayed on the backside too.

But at least the backside might be best color representation because it has been out of the sun and weather.

Thanks much,
Terry
 
(quoted from post at 09:07:48 07/09/14) Hi Showcropper,

I'm glad you gave me that tip about the backside.
But because I picked the hood, it figures that it has been sprayed on the backside too.

But at least the backside might be best color representation because it has been out of the sun and weather.

Thanks much,
Terry

Being out of the weather will insure that it is the same shade as when put on no matter how it relates to the original color, LOL.
 

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