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Antique Tractor Paint and Bodywork

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soundguy

06-07-2014 16:21:20
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cheap, fast, easy, auction?

hvlp or syphon gun from (walmart, tractor supply or harbor freight ). can get one in the 20-35$ range to fit that bill.. usually a 1qt cup. gravity or bottom hanger.

use an inline air filter water seperator.. you can get disposable ones for about 6$$ and you toss them each day.. they fo inline ..

you will need a pressure regulator to match the guns needs .. on the cheap.. you can get orificed units with a small gauge or 2 in/out and a knob. .. not great.. but works.

alkyd enamil paint is as chap as it gets. it's also inexpensive too. mineral spirits for brushing and usually naptha for spraying.. but read the paint you get.. there are some different formulations that like other reducers.

hardner is it's own can of worms. It's one of those things where if you are not sensitive to it. you don't notice it. if you are sensitive to it. as little as a whif can put you out of commission.. supplied air kit will eat up your entire budget.

some people buy a good disposable carbon filter with 'rescue' hazmat filter and just limit exposure by painting open air, preferably in a breeze.

i'm not giving you any sugestions there other than to read lables,,, be informed before you make your choices..

lack of hardner in alkyd enamil paints means it takes longer to cure and may have less luster and scratch resistance. Given that this is an auction paint job.. .. um.. i doubt it matters. I'm not a fan of auction paint anyway.. so...

be safe.. good luck.

ps. I've painted a ton of tractors with alkyd and syn alkyd enamils. with some practice and care you can make great loking tractors for dollars, not hundreds of dollars.

Now if you want to get into auto quality finishes. research urethanes and such.

right now you are probably looking for a single stage alkyd or syn alkyd paint. magic has them. valspar, if you can find it has them. nason has them.. I currently use nason syn enamils since I can't get valspar anymore... i have tried majic.. it's probably the cheapest on the market...

do some reading on prep.

you will want to degrease and use a solvent or wax remover.. oils and water will cause visible and distracting blemishes and artifacts in the paint.

some guys degrease, pressure wash, then use a soap like purple stuff and another pressure wash, dry, sand and then primer and paint and then load and sell..

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MSFarmer

06-08-2014 09:15:49
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 Re: Beginning painter thread! in reply to soundguy, 06-07-2014 16:21:20  
@soundguy

Hey man thanks for getting here so fast. There are bits of info in there that I've been looking everywhere for! Especially the in line filter, I didn't even think of that!

I will be keeping this 6 ft disc after I get done with it do I don't mind putting a little more money into the primer/paint/hardener this job, especially since it should not take much of any listed. I have a big shop with an overhang big enough to park a spray rig and a few tractors under so I think after hearing your advice on the hardener I will do it under the overhang.

Will my wife's porter cable belt sander help me get the sanding done? If so should I just try to find some aluminum oxide belts or is there anything in particular I should look for? Do you have any preferences on prep items such as wax/oil remover?

Again I really appreciate you takin time to help out!

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chase95

06-16-2014 23:08:57
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 Re: Beginning painter thread! in reply to MSFarmer, 06-08-2014 09:15:49  
For something like that I'd just go over it with a cupped knotted wire brush to fit your angle grinder. Remove all loose paint and rust. Wipe down and Clean metal with thinner/solvent. For your first paint job just go to your local JD,CIH dealer pick out a color machinery paint and the primer they have to go with it. Then spray on the primer/paint and you're done.

Now for me I wouldn't use the real expensive paint($150gal) on something like that unless proper prep is done as in sandblasted to bare metal.

The last year I've used a cheaper urethane paint with hardner 8:1 from a paint store farm equipment like discs, augers etc. So far it seems pretty good and is supposed to weather well... time will tell.

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soundguy

06-09-2014 05:22:16
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 Re: Beginning painter thread! in reply to MSFarmer, 06-08-2014 09:15:49  
a disc is gonna be a hard one to clean up.. I tend to not use belt sanders as they are only good for flats, and can take off metal fast.

i do like flap discs, and red and black 3m pads on a angle gringer or drill setup



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BAnNC

06-09-2014 09:25:18
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 Re: Beginning painter thread! in reply to soundguy, 06-09-2014 05:22:16  
Have found that a side grinder or even big drill with end brush, twisted, will cut all rust, dirt, and paint pretty quick. my 2c's worth.



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