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Antique Tractor Paint and Bodywork

Re: When to Add Body Filler and Metal Filler????

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B-maniac

12-09-2012 15:23:28
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There's a couple reasonsfor priming first. One is that filler has zero corrosian resistance and the other is if you are filling over a pitted sandblasted surface , you probably will never get the filler to completely penetrate into those minute pits completely which will leave a small void to start rusting. Primer will penetrate and seal all the pits. Overkill??? Maybe , depends on your weather conditions , shop conditions and how long you plan to keep the tractor and intended use. A coat of epoxy will in no way impede the adhesion of body filler. It's just long term insurance. Your call. RB

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showcrop

12-09-2012 18:09:07
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 Re: When to Add Body Filler and Metal Filler???? in reply to B-maniac, 12-09-2012 15:23:28  
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B-Maniac I am with you, I think that those who say that they have completely cleaned to the bottom of those pits are naive. If there is a void there, on a piece of metal that has been rusting for forty years, there will be some rust left too, and all it takes is a microscopic particle of rust to get rust going again. Is it possible for metal in the bottom of a pit to be clean?

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CNKS

12-09-2012 19:10:30
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 Re: When to Add Body Filler and Metal Filler???? in reply to showcrop, 12-09-2012 18:09:07  
"Is it possible for metal in the bottom of a pit to be clean?" It is if treated with Picklex or a similar product.



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CNKS

12-09-2012 16:26:47
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 Re: When to Add Body Filler and Metal Filler???? in reply to B-maniac, 12-09-2012 15:23:28  
B-I'm not disagreeing with you as you have a good point. But, I use body filler to fill pits in bare metal. I sand everything off and leave the body filler in the pits. One of my tractors had that done 8 years ago, with no sign of any paint lifting. I also think that epoxy will seal the area underneath and it's not going to rust anyway. The tractors are inside in a dry climate. I have never used epoxy first on anything. My point is that as long as epoxy is used it makes no difference whether it is above or below the body filler. It could make a difference if another type of primer is used, as far as I know none but epoxy is waterproof. The above is presented without proof. But sometimes I think that everyone concerned about rust, except me, live in a swamp--just a slight exaggeration.

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B-maniac

12-09-2012 19:50:31
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 Re: When to Add Body Filler and Metal Filler???? in reply to CNKS, 12-09-2012 16:26:47  
CNKS, I too have done it both ways and never a problem either way. That's why I mentioned the word "overkill" and climate conditions. I not only don't have moisture/condensation problems but when I use filler I apply a very thin first coat and squeeze it back and forth in all directions before building up. It's hard to assume everyone asking for advice on here has done this stuff as often as you and I and others so they may want to go the extra step.

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