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Antique Tractor Paint and Bodywork

Re: Storage of cleaned parts prior to painting

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CNKS

12-09-2012 14:56:14
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Picklex 20 (Google Search) or Must for Rust (Home Depot) will prevent rust for months if applied to clean bare steel and kept inside and dry. Must For Rust costs a fraction of Picklex and does about the same thing. Both are a version of phosphoric acid. I live in a dry climate and have no problems with rust. You can use epoxy primer which is waterproof, but after 3 days to a week, depending on the brand it has to be scuffed and reapplied before painting. In that case the Picklex, etc is easier to apply and can be scuffed and treated with wax and grease remover as the last step before painting, which will remove most of it. The instructions say it does not need to be removed, but I don't like painting over any kind of residue. To my cleaned and sanded parts, I do nothing at present, I used to use Picklex. If you do nothing just keep an eye on them.
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TJ in KY

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 Re: Storage of cleaned parts prior to painting in reply to CNKS, 12-09-2012 14:56:14  
CNKS, I know from reading previous post you are in a low humidity area, but I did not think you liked to use Picklex 20, especially on cast. I am tempted to clean them, warm them up with propane torch, to kind of drive off any residual moisture and put in tub with some "Damp Rid" to absorb any moisture. Larger parts treated with Picklex20 and see what happens



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12-10-2012 15:08:49
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 Re: Storage of cleaned parts prior to painting in reply to TJ in KY, 12-10-2012 07:20:45  
I hope Showcrop didn't hurt himself too bad falling out of his chair. There is another person in NH that likes Picklex, he can speak for himself if he wishes, but may wish to stay out of it. I believe that I am the first person on this forum to mention Picklex, several people use it. I was told by email about it, along with all the products I use--he lives in Pennsylvania, not exactly a dry climate, but not like NH. This all happened before this forum existed. Everything he told me works. I did use Picklex on the cast on one tractor with no ill effects, except for the clutch housing which I repainted last year, not sure that the Picklex caused it. I no longer use Picklex on cast. It does two things, it gets in the pores and may or may not come out with extensive cleaning. It also "cleans" the cast meaning that it brings all the crud to the surface, meaning that you have to scrub like crazy to get rid of all the "new" crud. So, I don't have much of a recommendation for the protection of cast parts, except to keep them dry. I simply do not have a rust problem as I can store them inside for months without rust. I realize that not everyone can do that. One of the advantages of living in the Great Plains. I use Picklex mainly to covert rust in pits, I will use it on cast that is out of site where I cannot get to the rust to remove it, and where it doesn't matter if the paint lifts. I cannot say for sure whether it lifts the paint or not. But on cast it really messes up my cleaning process. I use a PPG product for final cleaning of the parts before painting, likely similar to prepsol--there are many such products, I am not familiar with what Showcrop uses, if they work, fine.
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 Re: Storage of cleaned parts prior to painting in reply to TJ in KY, 12-10-2012 07:20:45  
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TJ in KY, I just got back from the emergency room after falling off my chair reading CNKS post about use of Picklex. I think that Final Prep is a brand of cleaner that I had once. The can that I am using now is Final Kleen. It is just the stuff for wiping down for removal of dust, oil from your hands, and for wiping off the acid wash to prevent flash rust. Here in NH during the cold months, our whole world is a tub of Damp Rid, Which is why I believe that my procedure that I described earlier works, as I end doing the sheet metal in March.

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