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| FordManiac
09-24-2012 05:51:58
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Did he use a clear too on top? |
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| CNKS
09-24-2012 17:10:37
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Re: Need help picking tractor paint for Ford 3910 in reply to FordManiac, 09-24-2012 05:51:58
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| If you want the guy to use clear coat tell him you want base clear and use the Omni clear, about $100+ per gallon, the base costs about the same as the MTK urethane. You are approaching the $500 mark if you use MP 170 epoxy on all and MP 182 surfacer on the sheet metal. |
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| FordManiac
09-24-2012 18:30:52
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Re: Need help picking tractor paint for Ford 3910 in reply to CNKS, 09-24-2012 17:10:37
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Ok you guys making me realize how stupid i am on painting. So i thought you prime, base coat, and clear is that not correct? Also i will use all Omni stuff to make sure of compatibility and quality. Money is not issue just want it right. |
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| Stephen Newell
09-25-2012 04:23:01
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Re: Need help picking tractor paint for Ford 3910 in reply to FordManiac, 09-24-2012 18:30:52
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| Not all paint is basecoat clearcoat. The 2k urethane I use doesn't need a clear coat. A base coat clearcoat is used mostly on cars especially metalic finishes. The basecoat visually looks like colored primer. It goes on dead flat and the sheen comes from the clear coating that follows. Its a really good finish for a car but in my opinion is not as good for a tractor as a urethane finish. On your car the finished is designed to look good and protect from rust. Your tractor is walked on and driven through high weeds and generally handled much rougher. The clearcoat finish is just not formulated for that abuse where the urethane is. |
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| CNKS
09-25-2012 05:12:54
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Re: Need help picking tractor paint for Ford 3910 in reply to Stephen Newell, 09-25-2012 04:23:01
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| Clear coat is urethane without color. I believe that base/clear is MORE durable than single stage, I have no proof of that. It is certainly more easy to buff and gives a better finish after buffing than single stage. That said, I use base clear because I cannot keep the cooties, lint etc, out of my paint. Single stage is easy to sand/buff to the primer unless I really pour it on. The clear in the base clear system is much harder to buff through if I use 3 coats. Otherwise there is no real advantage and in a clean environment I would use single stage Omni MTK.
This post was edited by CNKS at 06:10:00 09/25/12. |
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| FordManiac
09-30-2012 17:58:00
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Re: Need help picking tractor paint for Ford 3910 in reply to CNKS, 09-25-2012 05:12:54
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| Ok so if i go with Omni MBC base/clear what products and steps should i use? He is going to sandblast sheet metal and just clean and use some sort of solvent on chasis and wheels. Current paint on tractor is the original. Hes fairly new at painting tracotrs and has only done 5 or 6 in past 3 years. |
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| FordManiac
10-03-2012 19:15:19
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Re: Need help picking tractor paint for Ford 3910 in reply to FordManiac, 09-30-2012 17:58:00
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| Well this is becoming more difficult than i thought. So i went to my paint store and found a good match for Ford tractor blue but they dont have the correct grey. I then asked him just to color match my sample but his response was that he couldnt do that in the Omni line. What? I dont understand this and honestly i dont get the feeling these guys know much about painting anyways. Seems like they are more like a fast food worker s than a paint specialist. Anyways i now have to look for another line which there recommending PPG Delfleet. Does anyone know anything about this paint? Is it good or should i look at something else? Keep in mind that the guy doing the painting is no expert and has only painted 6 or 7 tractors. We are also buying the proper safety equipment for spraying these paints. |
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| casecollectorsc
09-24-2012 15:54:16
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Re: Need help picking tractor paint for Ford 3910 in reply to FordManiac, 09-24-2012 05:51:58
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| No clearcoat! Cheap clearcoat is worse than no clearcoat! |
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