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Another Question: Amount of paint required?

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charles todd

12-10-2008 11:55:50
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Painting a Farmall 504 with a WFE. I bought 1 gallon of IH Red, 1 gallon of Grey Sandable primer, 1 quart of IH White, 1 quart of Silver (rims), and 3 cans of Hardner, which should be enough at 2oz/qt.

Should this be enough? Should be similar to a H or M but with some white side panels and grill like a 06 series.

Thanks, it has been raining and is VERY wet here. I am trapped inside.

Charles

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charles todd

12-13-2008 15:45:09
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 Re: Another Question: Amount of paint required? in reply to charles todd, 12-10-2008 11:55:50  
The particular store (TSC) only has Red Oxide and Gray. I went with Gray so I could see the coverage and if I miss any spots. When you say that the paint "sticks" better to White than Gray of the same brand and style of primer it is hard to follow... The color determines the "stickness"?

I plan to use the same hardener in the primer as in the paint. Why 1/2 the recommended amount? Less likely to chip? Better shine? As for shine, when you say you increase the reducer on subsequent coats, how much? If the paint says 2oz/qt max, do you start thick and work up or use more than recommended?

I do like the idea of the dish soap in the wet sanding water, make sense. Soap is a surficant (also good for spraying herbicides).

I like learning new stuff!

Charles

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John B.

12-13-2008 07:21:54
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 Re: Another Question: Amount of paint required? in reply to charles todd, 12-10-2008 11:55:50  
I was at a few paint seminars and the speakers all painted tractors. They all said to just use half the recommended hardener in your paint. Then use an epoxy sealer on the cast parts. This helps seal any pores in the castings. I have tried this and the paint has a brilliant shine still 11 years later. I still get comments on my paint job.

I put three coats of paint on my tractors and each coat I use a little more thinner. It leaves a better shine. You have to put hardener in each can of paint you spray also. I paint as early in the day as I can. Then I wet sand the sheet metal parts up to 500 grit wet/dry sand paper. Put a little dish water soap in with your sanding water. This will keep the particles from sticking to the sheet metal. You may have to wipe off with a wet rag sometimes. Then just rinse off with plain water. Each coat of paint after sanding the one before it will come out with more of a shine

The more people you talk to about paint the more confused you can become. As for the gray primer return it and use the white. Your paint won't stick to the gray as well as the white. In a few years it will peel off the gray. I've had quite a few body men tell me that and they were right. Be sure to wet sand your primer before putting paint on top of it.I usually put two coats of primer on my tractors. I've heard some guys say they use two different colored primers so when they sand it they know how far down they are sanding. I never tried it but it sounds logical.

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charles todd

12-10-2008 13:28:21
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 Re: Another Question: Amount of paint required? in reply to charles todd, 12-10-2008 11:55:50  
I have two guns. One is a 2qt pressure pot with a remote gun on 6' hoses (Maybe HVLP, cannot remember but it in the OEM box) and a 20oz gravity gun. I LIKE the gravity gun, lays a good finish. Both are Harbor Freight "Professional"... I cannot justify high end guns for occasional usage.

Charles



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glennster

12-10-2008 16:04:57
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 Re: Another Question: Amount of paint required? in reply to charles todd, 12-10-2008 13:28:21  
use the gravity gun, it is prolly an hvlp.



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glennster

12-10-2008 12:42:02
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 Re: Another Question: Amount of paint required? in reply to charles todd, 12-10-2008 11:55:50  
should have enough, depends on how many coats you apply and if you are using a hvlp gun or siphon feed. hvlp will cut your material usage about 30 percent.



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