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Oliver, Cletrac, Co-op & Cockshutt Tractors Discussion Forum
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Oliver 1650 power steering.

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Don D NY

08-01-2007 11:14:28
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WANT TO KNOW WHERE TO START TO FIND MY STEERING PROBLEM. THE TRACTOR WANTS TO WANDER DEPENDING ON THE SLOPE OF THE LAND. YOU CAN KEEP TURNING THE STEERING WHEEL IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION TO KEEP IT STRAIGHT. SHOULD I START WITH THE HYDRAMOTOR OR THE POWER STEERING CYINDER.




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Sam M

08-02-2007 08:44:43
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 Re: Oliver 1650 power steering. in reply to Don D NY, 08-01-2007 11:14:28  
I hate to tell you this but a friend's 1650 did exactly the same thing and it turned out to be the hydraulic pump on the tractor . He first rebuilt the front steering cylinder but that did not fix the problem . THe first question I would have is what type of hydraulic pressure and volume do you have on the three point hitch and the remotes . Will the three point hitch quickly pick up something heavy like a round bale of hay and will the remotes quickly pick up an implement like a harrow ? If the answer is yes , that would seem to point away from a bad pump and more toward the front steering cylinder .

One additional aside here , my 1850 has a screw on it just above the steering column that when it is either turned all the way in or backed all the way out ( I can't remember which )the front wheels have no hydraulic resistance and the tires basically follow the land . I do not know if the 1650 came with this . You might want to check and see if you have this screw and see if it has somehow been changed .

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Don D NY

08-02-2007 08:58:38
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 Re: Oliver 1650 power steering. in reply to Sam M, 08-02-2007 08:44:43  
My power steering is run by a belt driven pump mounted on the front of the engine. You make agood point that I should check the pump preasure.



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Sam M

08-02-2007 10:28:26
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 Re: Oliver 1650 power steering. in reply to Don D NY, 08-02-2007 08:58:38  
Sorry . Sounds like your tractor is set up totally different from my friend's . His 1650 has internal hydraulic pump underneath the operator's seat which provides hydraulic fluid for steering , 3 pt hitch and remotes . You have to take the tractor "top " to get to the pump and the pump is driven by a splines on a shaft which comes out of the flywheel and goes back to the rear of the tractor to drive the pto . Does you 1650 even have a three point hitch or hydraulic remotes ?

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Don D NY

08-02-2007 12:38:12
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 Re: Oliver 1650 power steering. in reply to Sam M, 08-02-2007 10:28:26  
Hydraulic Remotes



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J Schwiebert

08-02-2007 06:19:39
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 Re: Oliver 1650 power steering. in reply to Don D NY, 08-01-2007 11:14:28  
I am not sure where your problem is, but the first thing I would check especially if you have some type of wide front end is to make sure the sector arm is tight on the shaft. There were some changes made in the arm and the bolt holding it tight would tend to streach making the steering loose. is have someone on the seat and see if the sector arm is tight on the spline. More questions? J.



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Don D NY

08-02-2007 08:51:12
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 Re: Oliver 1650 power steering. in reply to J Schwiebert, 08-02-2007 06:19:39  
Thanks for the info. This is a good place to start.



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TPIA

08-01-2007 20:25:46
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 Re: Oliver 1650 power steering. in reply to Don D NY, 08-01-2007 11:14:28  
I have a 1600 that does the same thing and dealer tells me its in the hydra motor Tom



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J Schwiebert

08-02-2007 10:33:21
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 Re: Oliver 1650 power steering. in reply to TPIA, 08-01-2007 20:25:46  
The hydramotor was made by General Motors. In the 1960's most of the tractor manufactures had that unit on at least one model of tractor. Then G-M said we are not going to make them anymore so that ended the parts thing. In the 70's Oliver offered a Charlynn unit as a replacement.



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Don D NY

08-02-2007 09:02:24
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 Re: Oliver 1650 power steering. in reply to TPIA, 08-01-2007 20:25:46  
I will check that out after I look at the sector arm and check the pump preasure. Do you know if the hydramotor has replaceable parts or do I have to buy a new one?



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