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Oliver 1650 shifting pattern

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07-19-2004 20:09:33

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my neighbor has an oliver 1650 and a white 2-85 they both have similar transmissions and the same shifting pattern. I can't figure it out by looking at the decal though. How does it work. The decal shows two reverse's two neutrals and six gears they aren't like straight though it looks confusing to me. Then there is the over under shift. I want to ask him if I can drive it, and im just curious how it works. I'm used to a five speed farmall.

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07-20-2004 07:26:19

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 Re: Oliver 1650 shifting pattern in reply to Jim, 07-19-2004 20:09:33  
Hi, Jim! If you take a careful look at the shift pattern, you'll notice that an Oliver tractor has actually two "quadrants" on the floor shifter. Each quadrant will have 2 slow and one faster and one reverse gear. The engine should be running and the clutch pedal depressed to move the shifter from one quadrant to the other. This does give the tractor 6 forward and 2 reverse gears. The 2 speed Hydra-Power and the 3 speed Hydraul-Shift shifters multiply the number of speeds respectively. Hydra-Power doubles the forward speeds to 12 and the Hydraul-Shift triples the forward speeds to 18! I was raised in Farmalls and we had the 656 model with the 5 speed and the TA. The advantage of my Oliver 1600 is that it has the 2 reverse speeds instead of just one like Dad's 656 had. Hydra-Power gives me 2 speeds in each reverse gear. My Oliver 1600 has a total of 12 speeds forward and 4 speeds reverse. That high reverse gear really saves time! Hope this helps, Don

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07-19-2004 21:17:38

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 Re: Oliver 1650 shifting pattern in reply to Jim, 07-19-2004 20:09:33  
Jim, I just got my Oliver 1650 a month ago and I wondered about the shift pattern too. Just feel how the gears pattern with out the motor running. Its easy, you have the pattern right in front of you. As long as you have some room to manuever, just start off and try it. I'm still real slow in shifting, but I can basically go through all the gears okay.

You mentioned the over/under shift. I think some Oliver models have both over and under drive in addition to direct drive (actually 3 ranges).

My 1650 has two ranges, the Hydradrive which is an under drive (or lower range)and Direct Drive which is the higher range. You don't have to use the clutch to use it. Just pull it out for lower range and push it in for direct drive (higher range). An easy way to shigt without the clutch.

Be sure to use DIRECT DRIVE if going down a hill as the drive is free wheeling so to speak, that is the engine will not brake you. Personally, I drive mostly in Direct Drive for now while I'm trying to get more comfortable with the shift pattern. Ed

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07-19-2004 23:21:20

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 Re: Re: Oliver 1650 shifting pattern in reply to Ed (KS), 07-19-2004 21:17:38  
I guess I might figure it out. This tractor has a lever right next to the throttle I believe it's a three way the white is a three way also.

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07-20-2004 03:14:21

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 Re: Re: Re: Oliver 1650 shifting pattern in reply to Jim, 07-19-2004 23:21:20  
It is very easy just follow the pattern. The lever next to the throttle is for a three speed, under free wheels,direct and over will not. You shift the main pattern with the clutch and the three speed without. I think it is 20% under, direct and 20% over with the three speed.
Good tractors you will like it.
Good luck Ron

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07-20-2004 13:15:01

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver 1650 shifting pattern in reply to evielboweviel, 07-20-2004 03:14:21  
on most Oliver 6 speed forward and 2 reverse transmissions, when you go from one neutral to the other it also shifts the input shaft speed.if the tractor is at idle it is no problem but at high engine speed best to us the cl

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