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Oliver 77 Question

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akrause

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New here and was hoping to get some help learning more about the Oliver below I just inherited. I was told it is a 1950 Oliver 77. However, when looking at the frame and tub it has the mounting pads that the Super 77's had. Does anyone know if this is a Super 77 or a Fleetline? Serial number is 338 731

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Frame might have cracked and been replaced. That serial number comes up to an early 51. Is the tag on the right side of the transmission or on the lower dash? Are the brake housings cast or a pan shaped pressed steel?
 
An early '51 sounds about right. The brake housings are pressed steel and the id tag is on the right side of the transmission. My great grandfather supposedly bought it in 50 or 51 and it has been on the family farm since. I'm curious as to what happened to the frame?
 
(quoted from post at 15:48:26 12/13/17) An early '51 sounds about right. The brake housings are pressed steel and the id tag is on the right side of the transmission. My great grandfather supposedly bought it in 50 or 51 and it has been on the family farm since. I'm curious as to what happened to the frame?
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Interesting.. may have combined two. Casting number on block above starter might tell you what engine it is. Might look to see if it has one or two belts. I'm sure J will straighten us all out soon.
 
It happens I have a super 66 that I broke the frame close to 15 years ago. and had to replace it with a fleetline frame. Was coming around the silo in the ice and slide into a pile of busted up concrete and it folded the tricycle front underneath.

Funny thing is actually was talking to my Dad about it a few weeks ago . And he said my uncle did the same thing on the 66 we have.

That is great having that in the family since new. I have a 66 super 55 and 1750 that were all bought new at the farm.
 
Wow, guess I didn't know an Oliver
frame/tub or front end would break like
that. They seem to be built pretty heavy
 
I think Blaine Bolte has an 88 that his dad broke the frame on and they replaced that one with one off a Super 88 if I remember the story right. Could have happened to your 77 too.
 
RBoots,
Yes, they will break fairly easily if hit right.
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Sorry for the delay in responding. The tractor is actually at my Dad's house and had to have him get the information. The casting number on the block is 185220 M100. It has 2 belts, 1 for the radiator and 1 for the alternator. Would this be a Super 77 engine or the original engine from the 77? I also did a little research on the tractor, and Grandma confirmed what you said that it must be a combination of 2 tractors. It was rolled hauling corn back in the day and my Great Grandfather was injured (not bad) when it happened. She couldn't remember how they fixed it but I am guessing that is when the Supper 77 frame was put on it. Would the pressed steel brake covers indicate the Super 77 brakes or the regular 77. Thanks for all the help everyone.
 
If memory serves me right that is a 77 block number and I believe 77s had 2 belt system where as supers had 1. Early 77s had band brakes and later have disc like you have. Hopefully J will be along to clarify.
 
Now that I know what this is, the real question is how to get it running. Unfortunately, it was parked outside for the last 7 years or so and the muffler rusted off unknowingly. It got water down the exhaust manifold and now the engine is stuck (just the #5 cylinder). I pulled the spark plugs and filled up the cylinders with PB Blaster/ATF mix and it has been sitting since Thanksgiving. I blocked up 1 wheel and am having Dad rock it back and forth every day but it won't budge yet. Should I just give it more time or pull the head and hit the piston with a block of wood? Anyone have any ideas, this is a first for me dealing with a stuck engine?
 

If you look under transmission housing just behind where the tub bolts to the rear end you will find a date in the casting to tell you when the housing was cast.this may help with the year.
 
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