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550 oliver engine noise

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J Oliver

09-08-2017 19:01:26

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have a 550 oliver engine now has 125 hrs after rebuild. motor has loud rattle in front of engine. I have removed belt and rattle was the same have removed plug wires one at a time no difference. anyone have any ideas thanks

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09-12-2017 19:45:01

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 Re: 550 oliver engine noise in reply to J Oliver, 09-08-2017 19:01:26  
Just wondering if it is a steady noise. My 550 used to make a noise too when I was mowing hay. It sounded like it was coming from the engine. Then one day I noticed that the stay rods from the front axle were loose at the ball sockets under the foot boards. The shims had all been taken out so I just cut a small piece of belt from a 2 inch tie down strap and put it in the socket around the ball. Have not heard the noise since. Just saying that sometimes a noise can travel.

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X-Y switch

09-10-2017 20:09:09

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 Re: 550 oliver engine noise in reply to J Oliver, 09-08-2017 19:01:26  
My "rescue" 550 apparently has a similar problem, or symptom. After replacing everything in the engine except the timing gears it runs great but has that rattle up in the front of the engine, not so bad after it is warmed up but still there. Just keep putting off doing that split to get the timing cover off. I've ran it 60 hrs. or so and it doesn't seem to get any worse. So, one of there days I'll dig into it. Harry

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09-10-2017 09:10:09

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 Re: 550 oliver engine noise in reply to J Oliver, 09-08-2017 19:01:26  
J, I think the noise may be coming from the governor, maybe it is coming apart. Chuck

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J. Schwiebert

09-08-2017 19:37:56

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 Re: 550 oliver engine noise in reply to J Oliver, 09-08-2017 19:01:26  
Timing gears? Get a good wood handle screw driver and hold it by the cam gear and listen. Get an oil sample and send it in and see if you have more than a normal amount of metal particles in the oil. My 2 cents worth. J.

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09-09-2017 05:17:29

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 Re: 550 oliver engine noise in reply to J. Schwiebert, 09-08-2017 19:37:56  
doing what J suggested is the way to pinpoint where the noise is coming from. Doesn't have to be a wooden handled screw driver, (I don't have one long enough) can be any rod. Acts like a stethoscope, where ever you put the other end not in your ear it will pick up and send the noise right to the bones in your will find it.

Obviously the motor is running and you are sticking a rod or long screw driver into places with moving parts...use your head.

Look on the bright side for now, could be a loose mounting bracket, motor mount, or one of the steel hoses. Might be an accessory, the rod will tell you for sure where the noise is coming from.

Any metal should be real fine, like a paste...drain the oil and use a magnet to find any in it. If you have something clanking it's bound to be should find shavings of metal. Many drain plugs are magnetic, yours maybe.

The rod in your ear (not actually in your ear by the by, kind of push on the tip of your jaw bone) can be used to find any noise in something...wanna find that mouse chewing in your wall before taking aim? :)

Think about the principle behind the rod and apply it to anything incorporating a "rod". Many "rods" in construction, break the transmission of the noise going down the rods and your house will be much quieter. Insulation is commonly used because it slows the vibration of the rods. I've heard of houses deemed unlivable due the the framing members singing loudly. Even a strap will transmit sound from one end to another. You no doubt have connected two tin cans together with a string and talked to someone on the other end.

I use a 1/2" solid metal rod...somethings transmit sound better than others, but they all will work, even a wooden one. PVC will probably work.

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