White 2-135 shift issue

rrlund

Well-known Member
Series 3,console shift. This morning when I was hauling round bales,I backed up and put it in park. It rolled. I took it out of park back to neutral,but the lever just didn't feel right to me when I did. I can't tell you the exact sequence of events,but one time when I tried,it wouldn't shift in to any gear at all. One time I shifted to 4th and it was as if it was still in neutral. I finally went to 4th and when I let the pedal up,it moved. I pulled it back to 3rd,it moved OK again,so I pushed it back up in to park,shut it off and unloaded the load of hay. It doesn't feel just right when I push it to park now. It moved too hard and feels like I'm pushing against a spring loaded linkage rod or something all the way to the top. Anyway,I started it back up,put it in 4th got out to the driveway,but it was clicking a little like gear clash.

When I stopped in the driveway to shift to 6th,it was sitting where it should have tried to roll back but it didn't. It felt like it does when you try to get it out of gear with the Over/Under in direct or overdrive but it was holding like that in neutral. I shifted to 6th and it was still clicking and the shift was shaking a little. When I started out on the road,there was just a little bit of a different click and the gear clash clicking went away.

I went back down the road to the field,pulled down in and when I shifted back to 4th it wouldn't roll in neutral again. I left it running in neutral,loaded up and came home. When I pulled up around in the driveway,I shifted to reverse and it was as if it was in reverse and park at the same time or something. When I let the clutch up,the engine just bogged down. It won't even roll backwards.

Here's a little aside that might be important. I put new cab mounts under it this spring and I never adjusted the linkage. There are 4 quadrants in the shift lever. One for park,one for the high/low up and down neutral,one for 3-4 gears and one for 6-R gears. The ones for high/low neutral and for park line up when the shift lever is in neutral and the ones for 2-3 and 6-R line up,but the high/low and park quadrants are about a half inch lower than the other two so the shift won't move straight across all 4. That's how it's been since I put those new mounts in.

The pictures are of the position of the levers under the cab right now with the shift lever in neutral. Before I start pulling pins in the linkage and horsing on things with pry bars,does anybody have any suggestions? Is it possible that my only problem is that adjustment being off has let it drop in to park and a quadrant latch is in a position where it can't come out now? If that was the case,should it go forward in a forward gear if the transmission was in park and not move in reverse?

Is there half a chance I can unhook the linkage rods and pop it out of park,or am I in a whole lot deeper do do than I really want to be in right now?
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Update. I don't think it's the linkage. I took the side off the console and pulled up the floor. The shaft moves down in the top of the transmission when I take it out of park,but it wouldn't actually come out of "park". I messed with it,got the lever half way back and it popped out. All the gears work now and it doesn't hang up when I push the clutch pedal down,but thinking it was fixed,I put it in park again. Same thing happened. First time,it was back against some blocks so there was no pressure on it,second time it wasn't against the blocks and I had to get the loader and push the tractor ahead. When I did,it popped right out.

When it was hung up both times,that shaft down in the top of the trans went about half way and wouldn't go any farther. I've pulled the pin right out of the linkage on that shaft so I don't absentmindedly shove it up in to park. It seems usable,but I'll have to shut it off in gear every time I have to get out of it.

Any ideas would be appreciated.
 
More: Just checked Agcopartsbook. Looks like two springs on that actuator shaft. One to force it up,one to push it down. I wonder if one of those is broke? Are they accessible without taking the top off the transmission? If not,can the top come off through the hole in the floor of the cab?
 
don't drive it anymore! Drain rear end and pull top cover off to see what is broken inside. Sounds like the park dog is coming apart. If you drive it and that falls down in the wrong place it will break off the bolt in the housing (pain to get out and fix!) or could even break the rearend housing itself. Fixed many broken parks including dogs and broken bolts. Trust me you don't want to be fixing it any further than you have to.
 
Will do. I washed the crud off last night. I'll have to take the pressure washer to it before I go any farther,but at least it's movable. I didn't want to even get it up in front of the shop door because I couldn't back it up to get it out of the way. Just from the way the shift lever feels,I'm leaning toward one of those springs being broken. It won't come back all the way like it should when it's locked up. It had a springy feeling to it,now it's like hitting a brick wall.
 

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