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Deos anyone have a clue why there weren't many 80 Olivers sold? Farmall sold a lot of M tractors but oliver didn't sell many 80s. the dealers where I grew up at in ohio never sold any but they sold a lot of 60s and 70s. Where was a popular place for the sale of an 80?
 
I can think of several reasons.

Old design, for example no self starter for the row crop models.

A three plow tractor to replace a team of horses was to expensive. A 60 or a 70 was
priced more what a farmer could afford.

Oliver didn't have enough money to design a replacement.

World war two all but shut down tractor production. Oliver had a replacement in the
works as early as 1942, and it was also redesigned several times to replace the 80 in
late 1946.

Their are other reasons, but the above is a start. If you look, the same reasoning
also applied to the Allis Chalmers UC and Moline MTA.
 
The 80's roots are firmly planted in the Hart-Parr days of the company. I don't know that 3 bottom plow capability hurt it that bad. Lack of then modern electrical and hydraulic systems hurt it far worse. Not only did the Farmall M and John Deere A have electric start by the start of WWII but the M had the Liftall system which should not be down played when farmers were tractor shopping then. By the end of the war John Deere had remote hydraulics which more than a few farmers took advantage of whether red or JD green tractor. I think both JD and IH had more speeds for their respective transmissions.
 

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