Turns out you can put a White 1170 loader on a 4 digit. The bolt pattern for the front saddle bracket is identical to the one already on the tractor, just had to shave about an inch and a half off the bottom of the bracket to clear the front axle. The original storage stand was integral to the loader frame and that was also in the way of the front axle so we cut it off just below the cross pipe. It was kind of a big dork hanging out in the middle of nowhere anyway so it wasnt that big of a loss. The only major modification was with the rear trunion's. We had to weld the rear holes shut and re locate them to catch the front set of holes in the rear frame pad, then we had plates lasered out to span the gap and catch 4 holes on the front frame pad. All in all a pretty painless conversion. Also went up from 6.00 16's on the front to 11L 15's to help carry the weight. Makes that tiny little 1600 look like way more tractor with all that tire on there. Last step is going to be plumbing it up with a joystick so I can get my remotes back. Now that we have a loader I dont know how we ever got by without it. That tractor has found more odd jobs to do in the last couple days than it probably did all of last year.