White 2-105 or 2-135 turning

Anyone have or had both? I am toying with the idea of getting a larger tractor to pull a 12 foot mower-conditioner, baling, and pulling a NH bale wagon.
(Current 65 hp tractor does not have a cab and has just enough power.) Have driven a White 2-105 and liked it. Recently saw an ad for a 2-135 that looked
good (at least in the pictures)and the price wasn't much more than most 2-105's. In reading about the 2-135, if used for PTO work, the engine runs at 1700
rpm and isn't quite the fuel hog as when doing heavy draft work. If I am reading the Nebraska test info. right, the 2-135 has a shorter turning radius and
smaller turning space diameter than the 2-105. Is that right???
 
Neighbor across the road has three white models, 85, 105, and 135. He will use the 85 and 105 for all haying work, leaves the big one set. Hard to beat a Perkins, and the 85 and 105 models are nice driving..
 
I have both. It is nice to run the PTO at 1700,I'll say that. Just seems to make things more peaceful. That said,I use the 105 for haying for the most part. My 135 needs new cab mounts and makes an awful banging noise of you hit a woodchuck hole or anything like that. The advantage to running 2200 with the 105 is speed. I've got a discbine,and fourth gear overdrive at 2200 with the 105 is a great speed for it. At 1700 with the 135,fourth overdrive is about the same ground speed as direct in the 105. I don't know that the 105 uses as much fuel at 2200 as the 135 does at 1700.

As far as turning,a 135 is pretty nimble for its size. Hard to explain,but it just seems like the 105 is more of an extension of my own body when I'm driving that. When you drive a 135,despite it being as nimble as it is,you know you have some iron under you.
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With the 2-135 you are getting wet brakes ,a diff lock, planetary final drives a park lock, a shifter on the side console, and a heavier tractor. You need to make sure the 2-135 has 540 pto not all of them did. The hydraulic pump on the 2-135 is charged which seems to make them work a little better. The best thing to do is look at them both and drive them that will tell you a lot.
 
My thanks to everyone who replied. I just hadn't considered a 2-135 until I saw the ad. Had figured a 2-105 was just about the right fit for my small operation. Having driven a 2-105 also liked the cab better than a Deere's or an '86 series IH. Something about my height and the placement of the seat lets me see the draw bar better when hooking up an implement on the White.
 
I have had a 2-135 for years and mine has the dual PTO (which you need to make sure the one you are looking at has) it's a very nimble tractor for its size and hp. We have used it on the 14 and 16 ft. haybine which of course both have the swing tongue and crimper. It handles them very well. Plenty of power regardless of the crop. It also has the weight when swinging the haybine and a strong drawbar setup. Lots of hydraulic power too. Very easy to change PTO speeds by simply switching 540 and 1000 shafts.

I have a 105 but haven't done very much with it as it needed some major work when we got it. Engine overhaul and O/U overhaul. But just from driving it around and a bit on a cultivator before I began the overhaul I think it will be fine on the baler. It might be a little light on the haybine though.

I can't comment on the fuel consumption of the 105 but I do know the 135 likes its fuel but then it is running a large haybine. On the baler it does cut back some. It is also excellent on the bale shredder and as others have said very nimble and a good starter in winter if plugged in down to -30C.

If you are not doing a lot of field work with larger equipment and your haying equipment isn't large with heavy crops I think the 105 if in good condition would do the job. But if the 135 is in good condition you will definitely have all the tractor you will need. They are a good machines and well equipped for the time they were built. Parts seem to be still available and lots of used parts from wreckers if you ever need them.

The newer red strip 135s have an isolated cab and nicer gear shift than some of the earlier ones. They are a heavy tractor with a lot of iron and I use mine with duals even though cutting hay without might be nicer. It keeps the weight well distributed and if you happen to a hit wet spot reduces rutting or getting stuck.

If you would like to look at more details on my tractors you can check my posts outlining recent work I have done on my 135 (hydraulic) and the progress on the engine and O/U on the 105 on this site.

The best of luck
 
Thank you for the information. In checking, the ad for the 2-135 has been pulled (local Craigslist ad) so I guess it has been sold. Have been getting by
O.K. with a JD 3020, but pretty sure it is too small for a twelve foot wide hydro-swing mower-conditioner. And having a cab would be nice.
 

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