ok so the good..tractor is a 1953 he said i havent looked up the numbers for you yet j..to dark..it runs very good..almost as if it has been rebuilt..has the window for the hourmeter and the ms carb ..not the zenith...got an aftermarket 3pt thats slightly tweaked but repairable and a honking big loader that was on it when he got it...something like would go on an 1850 or bigger...the bad is the piece broke out of the rearend and its just under the pto housing so i will have to remove that to see if i can weld it back in or not...while i was there he got several calls on it one from a guy in illinois that wants the loader and offered to trade a non running super77 diesel for it so the deals arent over yet but thanks for all you guys and your input and knowledge..when i get the top off i will let you know what debris i find and how it all goes...thanks again