How much can a super 88 pull?

fixerupper · Oct 8, 2016

A plowing topic on the Deere forum reminded me of a tale my neighbor tells. He claims back when they had a super 88 gas they put oversized pistons in it and he claimed it dynode at 70 some horses. He didn't say if they put a 1650 carb and manifold on it. Then he claimed they pulled 4-16's eight inches deep all day long in our black northwest Iowa soil. I think he is full of it. What do you Oliver guys think?

My straight 88 gas with 3 3/4" pistons and 52 horses has it's hands full with 3-14's in second gear in tough fall plowing. Normal fall plowing might be third gear but the 88 would be busy.

rrlund · Oct 8, 2016

Power aside,I think you'd have to hang an awful lot of weight on her to make her do that.

fixerupper · Oct 8, 2016

My 88 with three weights per side and new tires struggles with traction plowing if the ground is on the dry side.

Traditional Farmer · Oct 8, 2016

As the years pass walks to school get longer,deer horns gains points and plows get bigger.

J. Schwiebert · Oct 8, 2016

I can go to the corner and turn left and go 10 miles. Most Super tractors in that neighborhood pulled 2-16's! If I would have turned right and went down the road 10 miles you could pull 4-14's. Major differences in soil types. Where they would handle the 4 bottom is good soil for growing tomatoes, potatoes, green beans, etc.

fixerupper · Oct 8, 2016

Very true. Ten miles west of my farm one more bottom can be added to a plow pulled by the same tractor. The area this neighbor lived in when they had the super 88 has generally blacker tougher pulling soil than my farm.

hrRoss · Oct 8, 2016

i bought a 5 btm jd 14" plow down by the southern border of wis, guy said they pulled them all day in ill with jd R, i pull it pretty easy here in wis in must places with oliver s99 GM

gary66 · Oct 9, 2016

seems he would've had other things he made better than stock. Any sign of that?

I'll bet he had a steady supply of exhaust parts. Ask about that in a round about way
and see what he says. The heat coming out of it would've been intense "all day long".

farmerwithmutt · Oct 9, 2016

When I started back on this farm in
southwest wisc. I had 40 hp d 15 and 2 x
16 and it worked it. When I quit plowing I
had a 1650 with 4 x 14 running a foot deep
in sod with no problems. The difference was
my dad had made a terrible plow pan
(anybody remember that) also the guy had
used anhydrous . The year before I got it
they had tried chisel plowing it looked
like it was doing something but when I
tried it with the allis the traction
booster would kick in and pop the plow out.
I finally hooked both the allis and oliver
together on a 3 bottom plow and broke it
that way and I could stop them both . We
had a neighbor that always had trouble with
a 4020 on a 5 bottom with front weight and
fuel tank he couldn't hold it down finally
one day he moved the hitch a little higher
and he never had a problem after that .
Plowing is fast becoming a lost art . Also
in south wisc we have different soil types
you get by Brodhead there is sand anything
pulls there .

fixerupper · Oct 9, 2016

(quoted from post at 20:44:10 10/08/16) i bought a 5 btm jd 14" plow down by the southern border of wis, guy said they pulled them all day in ill with jd R, i pull it pretty easy here in wis in must places with oliver s99 GM

quote]
That's interesting. I know Deere advertised the R as a four or five plow tractor. I pull a 4-14's Deere plow with my R here in my part of northwest Iowa and it has its hand full, sometimes low gear with the front end bobbing. [/quote]

1206SWMO · Oct 9, 2016

A neighbor had a turned up Super 88 diesel that pulled a 5 x 14 Case plow...We have easy plowing
soil but it worked the tractor to death...He would have been much better off with 4 x 14's on it..

brutus49DC · Oct 9, 2016

The soil plows a lot harder today than it used to. In the 60's a family friend pulled a 4-14 MM plow with an 88 dsl. He made the comment that Dads DC Case wouldn't pull it. Dad said he would take that challenge. The DC pulled it in 2nd. The friend said "you have fluid in your tires". Dad removed the valve stem cap and let some air out to show it didn't. Now a days it takes a good DC to pull 3-14's. This is in clay loam with very little or no sand.

sourgum · Oct 9, 2016

Had an S 88 diesel yrs ago, when everything was plowed, always pulled 4-14's pull type with it. Had factory standard rears with fluid in them and outside wheel weights. Got along fine in 2nd gear, once and a while 3rd. We were deep plowers not shallow plowers. Today's fellows would not like that slow a speed but that was normal for that time. We had silty clay loam soil in Indiana , lots of difference in corn belt soils. Also there is lots of depth setting differences in plows and operators. During night running the exhaust pipe and muffler on that 88 would be completely cherry red. That tractor never gave us a lick of mechanical trouble. It was one of the good ones in '57.

RBoots · Oct 9, 2016

Well, we used to pull a 3-16" Oliver trailer
plow all the way down in 4th gear with our
77 in a loamy clay. And we pulled a 22' S
tine with our Super 88D in 4th gear. Black
smoked a lot, but it liked pulling it.

ADB-Ia · Oct 9, 2016

When I was a kid we pulled a 4-16 with a Super 88 diesel. You always knew where on the farm they were - you looked for the smoke. My older brother could shift between 3rd and
4th without the front wheels touching the ground. I remember when Dad had a 806 IH, a 4020 JD and a 1800 Oliver demo out plowing. The Super 88 and the neighbor's 560 gas
ruled the day. Dad ended up buying the 1800 - the hydra power saved on shifting forks LOL.

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