There Ought To Be A Law

To get the good parts, one needs to part out the good tractors. With the market getting soft, it's better Brian is parting it out rather than someone scrapping the whole thing.

If you want sad, here's what our government is doing:
Video of 4430 Being Scrapped
 
That reminds me of the "cash for clunkers" program, lots of useable vehicles were destroyed, that made me sad too. I like to see things saved and put to good use.
 
What the he#3? Almost makes you sick watching someone deliberately destroy a decent tractor....and laugh while doing so.No more machinery for him! Ben
 
You really want a law to tell people what they can do with their private possessions?You get good parts from good tractors,you get worn out beat up parts from worn out beat up tractors.
Just a fact of economics and the situation that these older tractor that are being used are going to need parts to keep them running and many parts are No Longer Available or so expensive that they may as well be NLA so the way to keep them running is to take parts off other tractors.I've bought several parts from Brian off ebay and he always has been very good to deal with
BTW.
 
We have bought parts from Brian to so that has nothing to do with the comment. Good parts come from good tractors yes, but why part out a tractor that doesnt need any parts to fix it in the first place and could go straight to the field with a good tune up or straight to a show with a good coat of deoxidizing wax. I stand by my statement. Dont kill the ones that have survived this long and still look that good to save the ones that have tried to self destruct and require parts off of a tractor like that in the first place. That machine would have made somebody somewhere a good horse.
 
Worthington Ag got in MANY Case IH combines when that was going on a few years back. They had to be parted out, they couldn't be resold as running combines. I'm surprised the government allowed them to part then out. About 10 years ago, I did crane engine replacements that the government paid for 75% of the bill to put a newer cleaner emissions engine in place of the old ones. We replaced 15 Detroit Diesels with Cummins 6.7's. I hated to destroy those 2 cycle Detroits, 6-71's,8V92,3-53,4-53,3-71, all the good ones. We had to put a hole in the block, crush the blower, cut a piece off the cylinder head, and cut the crank flange off the rear. There was a government worker that verified each part was done to each engine, taking pictures as we went. I had one 4-53 I wired the throttle wide open, and sprayed and entire can of ether into the intake before I started it. I then hit the key. It had been setting outside for days, and that morning it was 5?F outside. It started and ran perfect, never missing a beat, just like it was 70? out and had already been warmed up. I shut it down and started cutting on it. I hated to do it though.
 
I'm sure he would be more than glad to sell you any tractor he is going to part out IF you are willing to pay for it what he'll get in parts.Whole tractors like that are very undervalued
compared to what their individual parts are worth.He bought the tractor he is free to do what he chooses with it.
 
Its a whole different situation an individual deciding on their own to do something with a tractor car or whatever,than the Gov't telling a person what they have to do or giving money
to achieve their destruction.If their was ever a law passed about old tractors these days it would be to destroy them not save them thats for sure.
 
Amen to that. First person I ever agreed with on this subject as far as the logic that you have to part out good tractors to get good parts that's crazy at best. Just because someone is free to do with their possessions what they will which they are doesn't make it right or the person bad.
 
Someone sold it to him. It's possible it would be worth way more someday than any amount he could get in parts today, he'll kick himself then. I don't know how many baseball cards I ruined on the spokes of my bike as a kid. If we'd of know then...

Lot of things wrong and getting worse. I often ask people what they would do if things got very bad, they say they'll do this and there prepared for that, none say the same thing they're doing now and it's doing what were supposed to do now that keeps those days at bay.

Every law is created because someone used their freedom to infringe upon another's freedom for personal gain. Doing the opposite is then the answer to what we are supposed to be doing. A law is an incarceration of a freedom abused and no longer available to all since there is no one above it. This is how freedom is made equal for all, all live with the same amount even if that means everyone ends up with none.

Having said that it is then concluded that all laws come from a central law, a natural law, the law of freedom. Freedom has a demand and when that demand is violated it's survival is threatened. The check valve put in place to protect freedom from extinction is government and always government. Government then is not the giver of freedom but the punishment for abusing it. People are not supposed to want to lose their freedom so government incarceration is supposed to deter people from abusing freedom. Unfortunately it is not enough as the abuse has grown dramatically.

One would think with the above explanation that government is good since it's the check valve of the abuse of freedom, it is not nor ever will be and that is as designed. As further incentive for people to honor freedoms demand the entity that imprisons freedoms abuse is highly inefficient and grossly abusive of power. No one with this add incentive is ever supposed to want to lose their freedom to something like that, still the people persist in their violation of the demand and as a consequence we have produce the governments we have, the world has.

The purpose of this necessary evil is to hobble the abusers, slowing the people down from rushing head first off the cliff, giving people time to reflect, repent, and change from abuse to honoring the demand. Taken a step further the demand will always be protected as long as freedom remains. If the abuse is great enough and the check valve refuses to cut the legs out from under the abusers, a government not of the people will, often violently. (world history)

Bottom line the answer to what will you do, is doing what we should be doing now, love your neighbor.

Did this guy violate the demand? Maybe, the demand is an action, in action won't do. Question is, is he doing this for his neighbors or to take advantage of them. Is he keeping government out of our lives or giving it an opportunity to be even more invasive?

I know, this is not supposed to be here. Just remember the demand will be maintained and I meant no harm to anyone.
 
I was at Stamm Equipment one time and they had a nicely restored number series JD sitting in the tear down shop of the parts department. They were using a torch to cut the bolts that held the block together. I'd have just hated to be the guy who restored it and have to see that.
 
You can't save all of them. Sometimes I think parting one out is still better than modifying one into a puller and blowing it up on a track.
 
Funny how a few people on here thought the title meant that I thought there should actually be a law against parting tractors. I always thought that was a pretty common figure of speech that most of the guys on here would know but apparently not. When somebody says there ought to be a law about ................. it doesnt mean make an actual law, it means that it would be nice if people had the common sense to not do said thing, not, man the government really needs to make a law against that. In this case it would be nice to not be parting out tractors that need nothing because finding nice originals is getting closer and closer to impossible, and tearing the ones that are left to peaces to keep the clunkers going isnt helping the situation any. Keep doing that and you end up with a bunch of junk tractors with no parts to fix them, and no nice tractors to be had because all the nice ones were parted to keep the ones running that should have been parted out in the first place. Thats just bass akwards.
 
Notice he didn't say anything about the transmission or rear end being good- I'll bet one of those units is busted beyond repair. 1850 diesels should still be worth selling whole if in good condition, rather than parting them.
 

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